Mad Max Fury Road. They defeat the tyrant, and get the control of the water valves. Then they open the valves and seemingly keep them open. One problem, how long is the water reservoir gonna last now?
Logan’s Run. The city dwellers are freed from the computer’s iron-fisted rule, and Carrousel. But their city is in ruins, and thinks to the computer providing everything. They don’t know how to live without it. The city dwellers are going to start dying off real fast.
The Good Place is one of the best shows ever but in the end they basically just re-invent mortality. In the real world you die and we don’t know what happens, in the fiction at the end of the show you die and then spend some time aligning yourself to the standard the main characters set, and when you eventually align with their morals for long enough you either stick around and atrophy until you’re a forgetful idiot or you…die, and we don’t know what happens.
The viewers of the show see bits of Eleanor falling to Earth and inspiring people but the characters do not know what happens.
If you want to get deeper, Michael the demon is granted mortality which means it can be done, it is shown as a special exception but over the course of infinite time either all demons will earn special exceptions and humans will eventually die and be unable to progress through the afterlife because there are no demons left to guide them through, or that doesn’t happen in which case humanity will die out first and the demons will be left with nothing to do for eternity because all humans will eventually work through the system and disappear.
“Who has a better story than Bran the Broken? Let’s make him king!”
Okay, not happy in the moment, but it was supposed to be. I’m still mad about it. Of all the shows I’ve re-marathoned, I’ve never even been tempted to redo GoT. It was like S8 was so bad it went back in time and ruined the entire rest of the show. I can’t even entertain watching any spinoffs.
I may buy the rest of the series as novels (ha) but even then it will be with trepidation.
If you watch, binge, all seasons se08 becomes more logical. There are small markers all over the series predicting it all. I didn’t pickup those at first (weekly) watch.
I say more logical, not logical.
Se01-se06 are still TV magic. Se07 (dany’s attack on the lannister convoy comes to mind) still is good and se08 just speed runs everything.
I still think that was their only true mistake: speed running the season. It gave us everything we wanted. But in such a way nobody could enjoy it all. Jaime finally becoming true good only to return to his true love? (some very powerful acting there) Check. The long night? Check. End of the night king? Check. Ice dragon? Check. Arya voyage finally given meaning? Check. Jorahs redemption? Check. Cleganebowl? Check. Cersei dies? Check. Return of the mad king queen? Check. Theon’s redemption? Check. Destruction of kings landing? Check. Etc etc etc. It ticks all the boxes and more you didn’t even know they existed. It’s just that it ticks them in such an insane speed which results in gaps in the storytelling. Gaps of which some are filled if you binge it all but most will not.
Se08 had to be 2 seasons. Season 8, ending with the long night, se09, the fall of the red keep.
Yes, the 2nd dragon had to die for the sake of the story. Missandei had to die to cement Cersei being the baddest cruel bitch and complete dany’s arc to insanity. But like this? That was stuff for an entire episode. Not the final three minutes of one.
It’s a beast to wrap up and hit all those notes and do it before the heat death of the universe. That’s why we haven’t gotten a book in a decade, and likely never will again.
The hubris to think you can do it in eight episodes of television? Unimaginable.
Thinking back on that series, I’m still kind of amazed at what we witnessed with S8. Not the season itself, obviously, but the phenomenon of it.
GoT was a huge fandom. Everybody was talking about it, for years. People were fuckin’ naming their kids after those characters.
And then S8 happened and the whole thing was just gone. That entire enormous fandom erased more or less overnight. A moment of confused outage and then… silence.
I’ve never seen or heard of anything like it.
Well they went off piste! Until then they had been in or close to the track that George RR Martin had laid out.
The ending of ‘Inception’ is the big hol-up moment. It kind of happy, but we’re not getting the answer how real it is.
The ending of ‘The Sopranos’ is very ‘happy-not-happy’. Despite speculations
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did was Tony killed or not
:::. I mean, he is main character, and still he is a mafia boss, so could there be really good ending?
I also think that the happy ending of the ‘E.T.’ not happy at all. Even if federal government would be good to them, how would those children live their normal lives after all those events?
The ending of Makoto Shinkai’s ‘Weathering with you’ is kinda happy but for real is definitely not. The main couple is together but the price of it is Tokyo drowned.
Wasn’t it in the end of Inception that the wheel or whatever wobbles which meant that they’re still in a dream? I feel like I remember thinking that the ending isn’t real due to it.
No, if anything the way you can tell you are in a dream is because the top spins forever and never starts wobbling; the way he got his wife to eventually concede that she was in a dream was by setting the top in a perpetual spin so that she stumbled upon it still spinning.
The significance of the ending is not that he is still in a dream but that he is so content with the situation that he stops caring whether he is in a dream or not. (Actually, in fairness that is not quite true either; I’ve heard that basically the ending is more Nolan trolling the audience than anything of narrative significance.)
I’ve never heard that take before, cool! I’ve always loved the final cut in inception, because I felt that I just had to choose to believe that it was a happy ending. I also like the interpretation that by the end he no longer cares whether he is in a dream or not. But I just really want to believe that the top is actually about to fall when the last scene cuts.
Snowpiercer: Sure, there’s some evidence the world is warming, but at current there are two people, a bear, and no real shelter other than a rapidly cooling train. Just how long do they expect to survive?
The Graduate: Ends with the famous fading smile. Sure, you ran off together… now what?
Morbius: The central conflict of the movie is that the vampires who drink real blood go feral but are more powerful, and those who drink artificial blood are weaker but in control. Morbius is under time pressure because the artificial blood is becoming less and less effective, so he’ll eventually have to drink the red blood or die. He got a temporary victory killing Matt Smith, but due to the incompetence of the studio the actual real conflict of the movie is never actually resolved.
I always interpreted Snowpiercer (the movie) as being somewhat ambiguous about whether there were other people. We only have the word of people we already know are authoritarians that lie to keep order.
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