Mad Max Fury Road. They defeat the tyrant, and get the control of the water valves. Then they open the valves and seemingly keep them open. One problem, how long is the water reservoir gonna last now?

Logan’s Run. The city dwellers are freed from the computer’s iron-fisted rule, and Carrousel. But their city is in ruins, and thinks to the computer providing everything. They don’t know how to live without it. The city dwellers are going to start dying off real fast.

46 points

“Who has a better story than Bran the Broken? Let’s make him king!”

Okay, not happy in the moment, but it was supposed to be. I’m still mad about it. Of all the shows I’ve re-marathoned, I’ve never even been tempted to redo GoT. It was like S8 was so bad it went back in time and ruined the entire rest of the show. I can’t even entertain watching any spinoffs.

I may buy the rest of the series as novels (ha) but even then it will be with trepidation.

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This. Exactly this.

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If you watch, binge, all seasons se08 becomes more logical. There are small markers all over the series predicting it all. I didn’t pickup those at first (weekly) watch.

I say more logical, not logical.

Se01-se06 are still TV magic. Se07 (dany’s attack on the lannister convoy comes to mind) still is good and se08 just speed runs everything.

I still think that was their only true mistake: speed running the season. It gave us everything we wanted. But in such a way nobody could enjoy it all. Jaime finally becoming true good only to return to his true love? (some very powerful acting there) Check. The long night? Check. End of the night king? Check. Ice dragon? Check. Arya voyage finally given meaning? Check. Jorahs redemption? Check. Cleganebowl? Check. Cersei dies? Check. Return of the mad king queen? Check. Theon’s redemption? Check. Destruction of kings landing? Check. Etc etc etc. It ticks all the boxes and more you didn’t even know they existed. It’s just that it ticks them in such an insane speed which results in gaps in the storytelling. Gaps of which some are filled if you binge it all but most will not.

Se08 had to be 2 seasons. Season 8, ending with the long night, se09, the fall of the red keep.

Yes, the 2nd dragon had to die for the sake of the story. Missandei had to die to cement Cersei being the baddest cruel bitch and complete dany’s arc to insanity. But like this? That was stuff for an entire episode. Not the final three minutes of one.

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It’s a beast to wrap up and hit all those notes and do it before the heat death of the universe. That’s why we haven’t gotten a book in a decade, and likely never will again.

The hubris to think you can do it in eight episodes of television? Unimaginable.

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The hubris to think you can do it in eight episodes of television? Unimaginable.

Yea I heard that was the crazy plan… then D&d said, we can do it in 6, cuz we gotta hurry up and get over to this little project called star wars

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Thinking back on that series, I’m still kind of amazed at what we witnessed with S8. Not the season itself, obviously, but the phenomenon of it.

GoT was a huge fandom. Everybody was talking about it, for years. People were fuckin’ naming their kids after those characters.

And then S8 happened and the whole thing was just gone. That entire enormous fandom erased more or less overnight. A moment of confused outage and then… silence.

I’ve never seen or heard of anything like it.

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8 points

Well they went off piste! Until then they had been in or close to the track that George RR Martin had laid out.

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6 points

It’s called …ahem… subverting expectations.

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The Cat from Outer Space.

Poor cat with superior intelligence now stuck on this planet with us humans.

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The vast majority of Earther cats believe themselves to be stuck in this quandary.

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Probably, but at least they also believe they are gods here.

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It’s been about 30 years, but didn’t he get himself a nice dumb girlfriend cat? Maybe he was one of the idiots on his cat planet and now he’s just happier not being low tier.

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I didn’t consider that maybe he was low tier and it was a status upgrade for him. I’ll take it.

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25 points

Title gore

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Also fun fact! This is Lemmy! We can edit post titles!

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On a slight tangent, how come in the Mad Max movies (not the first one) the ‘societies’ he encounters seem to be the products of multi-generational effort, especially Fury Road.

In the first one, there’s a more or less functional world almost as we know it. Then he goes out into the deserts and it’s like 100 years passes.

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Max is not just one guy. He is an amalgamation of road warriors remembered in legends by the post-apocalyptic societies they helped

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That’s one way to interpret it, but I don’t think the movies ever actually tell us that. The game certainly suggests something else entirely.

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I love how the video game does it. It makes more sense Max is a doomed soul forever wandering the wasteland never able to rest. And how all the time has passed but he still remembers earth before

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I feel like that’s the official answer that they came up with to explain the differences in the settings between the films. It works, but only because there was a problem for it to fix.

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That bothered me too. I binged them all before Fury Road and it was a real whiplash to go from “All the houses are smashed up, there’s bits of siding everywhere and everyone has guns” to “These people live their whole lives on stilts in a fetid swamp like some sort of crazy flamingo men, but that doesn’t matter right now, keep driving”. It seems like more time would have to pass.

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Max is a pseudo-mythological figure. It’s never clear in the movies how much time has passed. Word of writers says that he’s multiple people retold as one person in retrospective story, but the movies don’t show that so you can take or leave it. The game has him as an immortal doomed soul.

Whatever is the case, I think it’s pretty clear we’re not supposed to take the story we’re told about Max via the movies as told completely faithfully.

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Heh heh… I wasn’t suggesting it was a documentary.

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Two things here explain this for me. One someone already mentioned I don’t believe Max is one person I think he is a legendary figure that gets merged into one person as people talk about their local heroes. The other is I always viewed the first movie as one of the holdouts of old civilization. For whatever reason that region had the resources to be in a more normal state for longer. When Max fucks off into the desert he’s going deeper into areas that are more desperate and have been hit harder by everything. We don’t know the full landscape of everything. The bat shit stuff we seen in later movies could be relatively isolated even but the society that does remain could be more like city states that dont have the power to go in and control the wild areas.

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7 points

The ending of ‘Inception’ is the big hol-up moment. It kind of happy, but we’re not getting the answer how real it is.

The ending of ‘The Sopranos’ is very ‘happy-not-happy’. Despite speculations

spoiler

did was Tony killed or not
:::. I mean, he is main character, and still he is a mafia boss, so could there be really good ending?

I also think that the happy ending of the ‘E.T.’ not happy at all. Even if federal government would be good to them, how would those children live their normal lives after all those events?

The ending of Makoto Shinkai’s ‘Weathering with you’ is kinda happy but for real is definitely not. The main couple is together but the price of it is Tokyo drowned.

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Wasn’t it in the end of Inception that the wheel or whatever wobbles which meant that they’re still in a dream? I feel like I remember thinking that the ending isn’t real due to it.

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Exactly but I think it’s opposite. The top kept spinning, seemingly endlessly, which wouldn’t happen in real life.

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AFAIK it symbolises him choosing to live the dream and surrendering his token, instead of waking up to the harsh reality.

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No, if anything the way you can tell you are in a dream is because the top spins forever and never starts wobbling; the way he got his wife to eventually concede that she was in a dream was by setting the top in a perpetual spin so that she stumbled upon it still spinning.

The significance of the ending is not that he is still in a dream but that he is so content with the situation that he stops caring whether he is in a dream or not. (Actually, in fairness that is not quite true either; I’ve heard that basically the ending is more Nolan trolling the audience than anything of narrative significance.)

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I’ve never heard that take before, cool! I’ve always loved the final cut in inception, because I felt that I just had to choose to believe that it was a happy ending. I also like the interpretation that by the end he no longer cares whether he is in a dream or not. But I just really want to believe that the top is actually about to fall when the last scene cuts.

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Inception: the end is real. His totem wasn’t the top like we were led to believe, it’s his wedding ring. He’s only wearing it in dreams and doesn’t have it on when he sees his kids.

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