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No, tell them how it is. The economy IS booming. That fact just doesn’t have anything to do with the average Joe. Teach them ‘the economy’ isn’t on their side.

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The Avarage Joe is suffering but the Genocide Joe is bankrolling.

Military industrial profits are going through the roof right now

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The Avarage Joe is suffering but the Genocide Joe is bankrolling.

Military industrial profits are going through the roof right now

Did the propagandaists finally get the go ahead to start pedaling Genocide Joe now lmfao?

It’s so pathetic.

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It’s so annoying because Trump would be dealing the same damage in the middle east. They are the last people who should be criticizing anyone.

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~ 1/3 military kills is definitely not “indiscriminately killing”. These numbers change everything.

It’s not a mass murder anymore. Oct7 was a justified targeted retaliation.

This is a direct quote from Linkerbaan. I would disengage; they are rather inarticulate, kind of creepy, and show a terrifying disregard for human life.

Yes, fuck Joe Biden for supporting this disgusting crusade, and fuck the two-party system for making it impossible to elect anyone who doesn’t. It does seem like Biden is cooling on Israeli military aid—it’s eating away at his ratings far more than anyone expected, and he is a politician, after all—so I’m hopeful we’ll see some policy shifts in Israel soon.

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Genocide Joe is a proper name for someone who is a devoted Zionist.

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Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but the 11 million losing medicaid is due to red states choosing to “unwind” it. It’s not really an economy thing so much as a deliberate asshole thing.

Everything else is spot on though.

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Child poverty too….it was way down with recovery funding from the pandemic that conservatives gleefully killed.

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Right about the medicaid. The child poverty is similar (Democrats expanded Child Tax Credit, Republicans refused to extend it. Presumably because people like OP would make posts like this to complain about Democrats. It’s brutally cynical but effective.)

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Republicans have also been blocking an increase in the minimum wage and attempts to eliminate student debt.

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Republicans have also been blocking an increase in the minimum wage

They had help on that. 8 Democrats voted against workers and with Republicans on the minimum wage increase.

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Isn’t the child poverty part related to Republicans refusing to extend the better child tax credit?

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Well you know maybe people in November will think

“I really want to hurt trans people, but I kinda like not dying in a diabetic coma. Hmm better vote D this time”

I really don’t know what to say. All these people consistently voting against their own best interests. I don’t agree with the shits at Koch but I get why they do it, they want the money.

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“The Economy” = The Stock Market. Nothing else, no other metric.

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Or GDP, which also just says how much money a company is making but has the added bonus of making people proud of their country to where they don’t think any harder about it.

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There are 2 jobs for every person, providing wage pressure on employers, and offering more choice in work people can do.

Some people are struggling, yes, and we should do things about that.

But it’s way better to be struggling when you have options than when you do not. I was poor in 2008, and it’s no fucking comparison at all.

The economy’s health directly impacts people of every income level

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There are 2 jobs for every person,

Yes, unfortunately it is often the case that the same person is working those two jobs out of necessity.

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That is not how open positions work.

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You only have the illusion of choice, as evidenced by the “booming economy” which just actually means being extra effective at funneling all economic output straight to the top.

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This doesn’t match the reality of the number of job moves and open positions.

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Ah, the national razor.

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It’s fun to build those in Minecraft.

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With a sign up top that proudly proclaims “Heroes Work Here!”

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Can we get a plastic basket instead of a woven one?

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Isn’t plastic doing enough damage to the environment as it is? Plutocrat heads should go into baskets woven from natural hemp fibers.

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Okay, you’ll do the cleaning when blood pours out every which way?

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Cool picture you posted on the internet.

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What?

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Chicken butt! Wait. Is that a riddle?

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I’ve always thought that the only meaningful measure of overall economy is real median wage. Don’t talk to me about GDP or the frankly insulting per capita GDP. I can’t spend money that’s being hoarded by price-gouging industrialists and tech-bros.

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I still think the dumbest thing we continue to do is demand a specific number…

Great fight for fifteen sounds nice, but guess what? The assholes elected officials will drag their feet until that $15 is equal in value to what you’re getting now. That slogan was pushed around so long ago and only now is a supposedly “blue state” like NY getting minimum wage to $16/hr…

We need to be demanding a living wage based on the minimum amount required to rent an apartment and buy necessities. And no, I shouldn’t have to have roommates just to afford a shit apartment. That just dilutes the requirement and allows the assholes elected officials to drop that living wage calculation way down when “you just need roommates.”

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Just tie it to the CPI of the state the way social security was. If you want to pay your workers less all you have to do is convince the local government to stop NIMBYing them. Who knows maybe some bigger employees like Walmart or Amazon will actually do it.

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GDP gives an idea of how much value is being produced by the economy, which can help judge what kind of further pressure should be put on price-gouging industrialists and tech-bros.

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It’s funny you bring up tech bros when Lemmy is full of them.

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I have no idea what people mean by that phrase.

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Idk what that other guy was on about but it’s people who super into computer tech and whatnot.

Like all the people who nonstop talk about Linux or 3d printers or wiring your entire house into an Alexa or stuff like that.

The only time I use it derogatively is when talking about tech companies that deliberately release poor quality products because they know tech bros will buy it anyway which helps drive inflation while ensuring lower quality

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If that’s your measure, than it’s up:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LES1252881600Q

There was a pandemic spike that’s now gone, but it’s otherwise following the generally upward trend that it has for the last decade or so. If we want to use that, then the economy is doing pretty well.

OP gives a lot of other reasons to think otherwise. Using any one measure isn’t a good way to measure the economy.

Edit: also, people need to stop saying “inflation adjusted wages are flat since the 70s”. That was true in the years following the 2008 financial crisis, but it isn’t anymore. But as another poster in this thread points out, the working class is still not getting their fair share of GDP growth over that same time period.

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Good point!

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