442 points

Just use Firefox.

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The ceo is a bigoted asshole, Brave is chromium, it was initially funded by Peter Thiel and they’re literally just trying to make their own adsense network.

The self-proclaimed privacy focused browser is tracking your browsing and want to serve you personalized ads, and I think they want to use that tracking data for AI training as well, meaning other people can potentially access it.

And lets not forget about their crypto currency that you can earn by turning on special ads. Which they seemingly unironically called it “Basic Attent Tokens”…

TL;DR: The company is basically a sham company trying to usher in a dystopia. Where you’ll get paid for staring at ads, while having all your data stolen and sold back to you.

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The fact that their founder wants to ban gay marriage is enough reason for me to avoid it like the plague.

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55 points

He fucking what?

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He made a thousand dollar donation in support of proposition 8, a constitutional amendment in California that strips gay people of the right to marry. He then proceeded to argue that such a donation does not make him a bigot or an enemy of LGBTQ+ people, because he’s a delusional piece of filth.

This effectively prevented gay people from marrying in California from 2008 to 2013 until the fascists that supported it were finally done trying to argue how this doesn’t violate the US constitution.

So yeah, may he, his browser, and any pathethic excuse that pretends to be human being who supported this abomination rot in the deepest depths forever.

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The codebase is irrelevant, I’ve already rated it, it’s another blink clone. As a product, on the other hand, you should definitely practice responsible consumerism. Aligning your values with your consumption is a good thing.

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Totally agree. Why make someone richer who you ethically don’t align to. It just makes their agenda easier.

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I don’t disagree with you, but at the same time I use Lemmy. I disagree with its developers political views, but I believe they are doing something good for society. So maybe sometimes it’s good to make an exception.

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Same reason people who boycott chic a filet over LGBT issues, it has nothing to do with the quality of their product it’s about not supporting someone who’s views and opinions are that only some people deserve equality.

Voting with your wallet is more effective than simply vocalizing disagreement while still supporting their product.

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Everyone has a price when it comes to “can I still use/enjoy X when the author did seemingly unrelated thing Y”.

For example, can you still enjoy the music of The he Lost Prophets? I can’t.

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6 points

Most poeple responding said that it has nothing to do with it, but I would add that someone who has these view is more likely to implement unethical features

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5 points

Are you being purposely obtuse, bud?

Let’s go to extremes… If actual Hitler worked on a project should we all just use that project even though Hitler made it?

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If actual Hitler worked on a project should we all just use that project even though Hitler made it?

It’s called Volkswagen, one of the biggest car manufacturers in the world.

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Comparing Brendan eichtoo Hitler doesn’t seem logically coherent but let’s just use your fringe example. We do actually continue to use shit invented by Hitler all over the world to this day. Volkswagen to give an example. Lemmy is made by tankies. So… The answer is that so long as the thing is sufficiently useful. Yes.

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The choice might not always be obvious. What if the project improves the society or saves human lives? In such case we might decide it’s better to support the project, but make it clear that we don’t support his other activities.

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If you invoke hitler, you already lost the argument.

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It’s a boycott, not a code review.

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I got my OS from north Korea, why on earth would I not trust it explicitly with any and all of my families information?

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because the guys here are dumb woketards

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Why would you come to a place just to bitch about it? If you don’t like it here then fuuuck off. Go to ExplodingHeads or Rammy or even right the fuck back to Reddit. No one made you come here, vote with your feet. Or if you won’t do those things, then I beg you to take just a little less effort here and not post.

I swear to God, some of you fuckers are the kind of dudes that rock up to a lesbian bar, get kicked out for hitting on women at the lesbian bar, and then start pissing and moaning about how “no one is allowed to be real man anymore hurk durk durk durk” and calling the bouncers woketards.

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I dont know why anyone would leave chrome and land on something like brave.

If youre ditching chrome, which you should, go to an actual different browser and use Firefox.

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Brave is a marching band of red flags. It claims privacy while injecting ads, affiliate codes and crypto into the browser. It’s kind of sad to see someone like Brendan Eich who should know better turn to the dark side and pretend this is all fine. It isn’t.

Best advice I could give for anyone who wants privacy is use Firefox or a branch of it. Firefox is out of the box the most privacy conscious mainstream browser and add-ons make it more so. If you want absolute privacy you could even use a derivative like Tor Browser.

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someone like Brendan Eich who should know better turn to the dark side

LOL, he inflicted Javascript upon the world. He never knew better and was always on the dark side.

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JavaScript is a victim of its own popularity. It was originally meant to be scripting glue to do little actions in the browser while the real work was done in Java (LiveConnect) apps. But Java got jettisoned, JavaScript became more important and became the thing we love and hate today.

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JavaScript is a victim of its own popularity.

No, that’s not the issue. If Javascript were well-designed we wouldn’t hate it, but it wasn’t.

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9 points

Louis Rossmann also recommended Brave in one of his videos. Quite sad.

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I like a fair amount of his videos but he has a big ole bag of bad takes

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Love everything he criticizes (corporate greed, drm, wasteful planned obsolescence, unrepairable disposable device design) are all incentivized and rewarded under Capitalism … but since he’s a small business owner he still supports the idea of Capitalism.

He gets so close.

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2 points

Informative and unfortunate

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Brodie Robertson also uses Brave. Quite sad x2.

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These people talking as if not all the crypto bloat would be opt in lol. It just take 30 seconds or even less to turn off everything of that.

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Brave is more secure than Firefox out of the box.

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