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And people will be dismembered if they fail to comply.

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Not that a new connector is around the corner, but I love how people try to act like this will be an achilles heel for these laws. How long will it take to vote in an amendment that updates the connector?

I get it, being anchored to one connection type sounds good now while it’s still somewhat new, but in 10 years it could be a burden. Still, I do not want to go back to the days of every device having a unique barrel connector.

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Many people have been taught regulation is bad, not much logic to it.

USB-C as a connector can easily last a decade, much longer for just power delivery.

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Exactly! Most electronics are surprisingly low-powered, but USB-C can currently support 100W with a draft spec with upwards of 240W. We’ll be fine for awhile.

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I’d be surprised if USB-C was a limitation on phone technology even by 2040. The bandwidth and power delivery capacity are way beyond what are needed now. Data transfers from phones are going to increasingly move to wireless in that time frame too, I expect.

The limitation on the viability of USB-C with phones won’t be the actual technological viability of the standard with respect to phones. Instead, the problem for USB-C for phones will be if another standard comes out and starts being used by other devices that do need higher bandwidth or power delivery capability. Monitors, storage devices, laptops (etc.) will eventually need more than USB-C can provide, even with future updates to its capacity. When those switch over to something new, that will be when phones (and other devices) will need to consider a new standard too.

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I collect old handhelds. Each one having a unique charging and/or sync cable fuckin sucks and I’m so glad that USB is ubiquitous. My current daily driver has mini USB for data, but charges using a unique connector that plugs into a unique cradle that sends power to the device when hooked into the cradle. Without the cradle, ya ain’t charging this thing.

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Well USB-C was published 9 years ago, and has been well-established, nearly ubiquitous for at least 5. Why did this take so long?

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EU version has review process built-in. Anyways it’ll be hard to get more outdated than lightning.

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How long will it take to vote in an amendment that updates the connector?

Depends on what corporations and countries are backing it probably.

I thoroughly agree the connector insanity was a pain in the ass (though, being a hoarder of cables it made me a sort of superhero) but I just really dislike governments dictating this kind of thing.

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USB-C is a connector shape, so there’s really no need for a USB-D. What you’re thinking of is USB 5.0, except the USB has a penchant for coming up with the dumbest names imaginable. The current latest (I think) version is 3.2 Gen 2x2, so the next major version will probably be called some bullshit like USB 3.2 Gen 2x2+1.

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How immature.

Regardless, I have to say:

Gottem.

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USB One

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USB4 is here and is already being called weird stuff.

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USB 3.2 Gen 2x2+1.

Thankfully it’s not the 90s or they’ve called this “USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 Extreme”

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Wikipedia lists USB4 Gen 4 (No space between USB and 4, which is different from previous versions which did have a space there).

Following USB4 Gen 2×1, USB4 Gen 2×2, USB4 Gen 3×1 and USB4 Gen 3×2.

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If the USB-IF can agree on it, why not?

The USB-IF moves so slowly it might as well be standing still.

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I think it’s good for USB standards to move slow.

Finally just about every device I buy has USB-C now. If they release a new connector that’ll just mean using 2 different cables for everything again.

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Well that’s handy, because thanks to the EU that’s what everything will be using anyway.

What else are they going to mandate? That sand remains course and irritating? Or more likely demand that the rest of the world stops laughing at their Jetsons city idea.

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Saudi sand actually isn’t course enough

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This goes way further than EU rules.

EU regulation only mandates this for phones. This also covers non-phone electronics, such as mice, keyboards, flashlights, handheld fans, ebooks etc. As of 2026, it also applies to laptops.

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No, that’s EXACTLY the EU regulation too. Up to and including the 2026 exception for laptops.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/headlines/society/20220413STO27211/usb-type-c-to-become-eu-s-common-charger-by-end-of-2024

I didn’t look into every little detail. But EU’s regulation certainly is not only for phones.

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Government mandates electronics sounds very Communist. I thought were way past that already. Companies should be allowed to compete for charging standards without government interference. Let the invisible hand of capitalism self correct itself, though the heavens fall.

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Yes, every government regulation is communism. No dangerous lead levels in drinking water, gasoline, etc.? Communism. Companies should be allowed to compete for lead level standards without government interference. Let the invisible hand of capitalism correct itself.

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Yeah well the markets had plenty of time to regulate itself it hasn’t bothered to do so mostly because it contains Apple. Not every piece of government oversight is communism.

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True… companies can come up with their charging standards. Just don’t try to sell it in all of EU or Saudi Arabia. Also apple overcharged for the damn cables and they break so quickly. last time I used iphone the cable was 20 euro. While I could buy 20 USB-C cables for that. Never had a broken USB-C cable. not even the ones for AliExpress

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There is a second stage, starting from April 1, 2026, which will apply to laptops and portable computers.

I’m with them on small devices using USB C, but all laptops is a pretty tall task. Can gaming laptops that need a high voltage even use USB-C? They already struggle with massive charging bricks and thick cables.

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The latest USB power delivery standard allows for new voltages of 28, 36, and 48 volts at up to 240 watts at 48V. My current Dell workstation laptop uses two 20V USB C connectors to achieve similar.

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I’m imaginining some kind of monstrosity of a gaming laptop with a power cable that looks like a hydra splitting into three or four USB-C connectors, and it’s gloriously silly.

Maybe it’s time for a new thing similar to USB 3.0 micro B, with two USB-C connectors next to each other on the same plug.

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Pretty much, they magnet together though so you can split them apart and use them as normal with other devices.

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It would make since to say something like usb-c is required for up to x volts. Then x-y volts require this other kind of charger.

I mean it’s totally valid if the required technology literally can’t handle certain applications that there needs to a level 2, level 3, and onward option.

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I’m chuckling at the idea of someone plugging in an early USB-C device and watching it go up in flames as it gets hit with 48v instead of the 5v that it’s rated for. I know USB-C has a chip that is supposed to negotiate power transfer, but it’s still a funny “what if” thought.

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Lol where is this “chip” because between the all the cables, chargers, and devices bought off Alibaba or Aliexpress Amazon that’s bound to happen at some point.

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I recently bought a gaming laptop. Specifically a Lenovo Legion 5 with a rx 6600. It has both the big powerbrick charger and can be charged via USB-PD, obv not at the same speed but it is an option that is available.

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Not gaming (obviously!) but the2019 MacBook Pro has a 140W USB-C charger to a single port.

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2019 is 96w charger. 140w is 2021 or later.

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Probably. But your will have to buy the correct charger and cable. I have a couple 100W cables. The problem is they Al look alike.

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The label maker business is about to be booming!

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I specifically buy cables with different colors or from different brands as I upgrade, and keep a note around for what their PD capacity is for each set. It’s annoying, but doable.

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your gaming laptop is struggling because gaming laptops are scams. you’ll never get the performance you want and you’ll pay the premium anyways.

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the ASUS ROG STRIX SCAR 17, their biggest baddest gamiest 17" laptop, ships with a power adapter rated for 280W. it also offers charging over USB-PD at up to 240W, so would comply with the regulation here.

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i think some companies use seperate ports for charging and gaming on gaming laptops

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