@mozz@mbin.grits.dev Deindustrialization in progress.
Since you’ve rejected the idea of actually computing the involved countries’ industrial capacity so we can have a conversation grounded in reality, I’m happy to just throw anecdotes at you.
Russian airplanes are hitting the edges of their none-of-our-internal-industry-can-maintain-them safe flying parameters. For the rest of the world, it’s not difficult to keep the planes in the air, and it’s a huge deal when one suffers a malfunction. In Russia, serious air accidents are about to become commonplace.
I’d rather have all-imported steel and working airplanes than domestic steel and broken planes. Gimme another?
You should learn one day very soon to not trust anything the Washington Post says about anything, particularly enemies of the USA, outright. You don’t even need to read and critically break down these rags anymore. Ditto with every major new media, Wikipedia, NYT, the Guardian, they are no better than Epoch Times or Fox News at this stage of the collapse.
Have you even heard of the Boeing 737? There’s an entire wikipedia entry just on one model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_Boeing_737
I like how you have to resort to future casting from a WaPo article as opposed to just leaving the content of that propaganda rag to stand on it’s own though. Also, is your point that the West is engaged in collective punishment of civilians through sanctions? Because as the article you referenced says.
“Of course sanctions affect flight safety,” said Russian aviation analyst Andrei Menshenin in an interview. “They can’t not affect it.”
It’s really shocking how your reasoning works. The USA, the country with the unilateral power to collectively punish nearly 80% of the world’s human population can’t produce healthy aircraft. Meanwhile, the civilian population of Russia purchases those planes on false USian promises of quality, and then the USA enacts collective punishment on those civilians by denying them the ability to buy parts for the US made aircraft which are made like garbage, and you think that’s evidence that Russia is not doing well? You even put it up against literally the ability to make steel in one of the world’s two dominant historical steel centers (Germany is the other one).
You’re a hoot.
Oh, also fix your heating system.
“Hey bro I’m gonna go shoot up my neighbor’s house.”
“Um… I’m gonna stop fixing your lawnmower for you that I manufactured for you.”
“COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT my kids will suffer”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DkuKnYdtW9w
@ 5:30 mark. Hard data, and not anecdotes. The EU as a whole is cannibalizing itself from allowing the Build back better act to poach European companies to ditching cheap Russian fuel.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
It’s a good thing COMAC is a new contender for commerical aerospace- and Russia certainly has the means, even if it’ll have to rebuild and reinvigorate it a fair bit, to produce its own passenger aircraft as well.
All you have here is WaPo drivel and speculation, and if you believe them about anything- much less anything regarding Russia, Palestine, China, etc… you’re a lost cause. This is basically on the same level as “Russians will have to resort to salvaging chips from their washing machines” nonsense- do you think that Russia, an industrialized nation whose legacy forms one half of the technological development of the cold war, is incapable of basic maintenance and repairs for their aircraft without western Aryan “benevolence?”
Anyways, cheers to the UK no longer making steel. In a perfect world, perfidious Albion would never create steel again, not for a thousand years; considering what they have always done with any industrial capacity that came about on their damnable island, it is only fitting.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
MOST PATHETIC COUNTRY IN CONTEMPORARY HISTORY IM DEAD BRUH
I’m sorry how does this have anything at all to do with Russia?
After reading the article, I would guess that the blast furnaces are gas powered. Since Britain no longer is purchasing gas from Russia, the price is likely too high to run the blast furnaces, therefore pushing a costly transition to electric ard furnaces.
Just because the article doesn’t mention Russia specifically, we must analyze why it is no longer cost effective to run the blast furnaces.
Steel production is an energy intensive process, and being cut off from cheap Russian energy is the major reason why it’s no longer profitable to do steel production in Europe.
imagine not even having the steel to produce the sabers for rattling
Tata Steel
THANK YOU, DO NOT COME AGAIN
nothin’ personnel tho (literally you ain’t got no personnel)
It may be the result of capitalism, but there’s something incredibly right about Tata owning (and discontinuing) modern Britain’s steel production. Here’s hoping that in due time (and due collapse) Indian corporations come to own that whole wretched island, it would be only fitting and even then would pale in comparison to reparations owed.
Not at all, save for the fact the power dynamics don’t allow them to drive the whole island into slavery, starvation, and disenfranchisement the way Britain did the subcontinent. If things reached anywhere near that level, or well before it, I would certainly care.
This however? It may not be praxis, but I will certainly allow myself to not only enjoy seeing this, but cheer it on. The Brits deserve this and more, particularly as their island remains one of the champions of modern imperialism and exploitation worldwide. Notions of “sainthood,” “purity culture,” and all that nonsense be damned, I won’t stop myself from appreciating karmic justice (so long as it stays within the realms of what can be interpreted as justice) where it happens.
Tata has also bought Jaguar which I think is/was a British car company. Very weird trend IMO.
