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I’m not a dev. What’s a mirror? Sorry for being uncool.

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Basically a copy of the infrastructure, so that you can switch over, if the first/main instance is lost (by a government, for example).

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Hate when the government loses my servers :(

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Literally a server standing by and doing the same thing as the other by being a backup in case the 1st gets taken down.

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When the fuck did that happen? We’re cool now?

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I think that’s the difference: Pirate Bay and Silkroad knew they were inherently anti-establishment, but it seems to me that Parler and Gab think of themselves as “alternative establishment” or something.

Pirate Bay was never trying to compete with Netflix or Steam-- it’s conceptually very different. But Parler very much wants (wanted?) to just be Twitter but with right-wing politics.

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That’s a great distinction, I’m gonna start stealing that.

Some people aren’t anti establishment, they are anti-not-my-establishment. You can’t call yourself anti establishment if you just don’t like the current one.

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Totally. I’m not even sure how many do call themselves anti-establishment, but I do know that there’s lots of talk on the right about building a “second economy” and “alternative public square” and stuff like the Daily Wire trying to make movies, all as part of this “fine, I’ll open my own casino” kind of play. It’s very purposefully establisment-focused, just not the existing one.

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Parler and gab just want to be mask-off racist twitter/facebook. Nothing anti-establishment there at all.

Pirate Bay and Silk Road were knowingly breaking the law in nearly every nation on earth and trying to avoid capture doing so, both failed to do so by various degrees. This is anti-establishment as they are flagrantly disobeying copyright and narcotics laws at these two sites.

Pirate Bay is still operational, just not by the original owner. I don’t know about Silk Road as I have no interest in drugs

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pretty sure silk road is gone irrc. I could be thinking of something else tho.

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Silk road is long gone but there are a plethora of other similar markets. Just like any other service in demand when one gets shutdown three more pop up in it’s place.

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It’s simpler than that: fascists lie.

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Socialist devs now

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Socialism by definition is not anti establishment. It’s anti current establishment but the philosophy is geared towards a bigger government “establishment”.

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No, it is not. Socialism does not mean statism. Please feel free to read up on libertarian socialism, Anarcho syndicalism or even eco socialism. The Greens/EFA in europe lean towards libertarian socialism.

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Libertarian socialist here: Say it again for the people at the back.

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I was 100% not aware if libertarian socialism. Definitely something to learn about. Thank you

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Depends which sense of “socialism” you mean, purely Marxist socialism perhaps, socialism in general no.

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I’m pretty sure that’s the difference between anti establishing and anti government. the “establishment” is the established power structure. technically fascists ARE anti establishment in most places. and that’s a very good thing.

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Are they tho

Republicans are going mask off, Italy is run by fascists again, AfD is at 20%, Putin is invading neighbors and bankrolling white supremacists world wide, Israel’s engaging in open genocide, their neighbors wish they could do the same, the second largest party in Sweden was founded by Neo-Nazis…

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Fascists only pretend to be anti establishment their whole thing is preserving capitalism when it enters crisis.

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You are confusing socialism with communism. Latter is anti-establishment.

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You are confusing left-liberalism with socialism.

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I demand the government force this private company to provide me free speech.

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Shit that makes you go https://i.imgur.com/rITNPGY.jpg

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Embed please.

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I would say supporting a scammer criminal is pretty anti etablishment

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