73 points

Time to get an Android, I guess.

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84 points

Always has been

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18 points

Just as long as you get one of the few models that are unlocked or offer a long lifetime of updates.

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9 points

or offer a long lifetime of updates

In Samsung unpacked event Samsung announced that it will extend Android And Security updates to 7 years

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17 points

I ended up installing LineageOS and have been getting updates almost weekly ever since.

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13 points

That’s the thing though, you can get devices from other manufacturers and you can get unlocked devices with Android. Those things aren’t even options with Apple.

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6 points

Apple is so locked down I fail to see what the appeal could be in the first place, there’s very little customization, only one hardware manufacturer, and they’re more guilty of anyone else in the market of planned obsolescence.

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iPhones historically have lasted 5+ years while android manufacturers tend to support a phone for maybe 2 years.

Only justnow are companies promising 7 year support for Android, but even then Google has been full of shit lately like their pixel subscription that they cancelled right when users were beginning to be eligible for a new free phone.

You can complain about the headphone jack, but Apple devices last far far longer than comparable devices. That goes for Macs too where the hardware lasts 10 years, and Google and Microsoft just tossed millions of devices in the trash by dropping support.

Linux has longer support than anyone, which should serve as a model, but of the tech companies Apple is the least guilty of planned obsolescence.

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You mean except for when they got caught slowing down old models, or how their support will tell you to go to a store and the store will tell you to call support and nothing gets fixed. Or how they break Australian Consumer Law by saying that any ex-displays don’t have any warranty despite that legally your warranty starts when you buy the phone. Can’t fix anything just spend more money for latest version

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The ecosystem is the thing holding me here. Everything works so seamlessly and the products are very good (imo). I don’t have to worry that my watch and headphones might not work with another company’s phone, or at least not as good. If there are headphones and watches that would work as well, seamless and long as Apple’s, I’m open to suggestions. Apple might be behind with innovations, but when they implement something, it’s done right (usually)

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Havent had any issues with my headphones conncectivity wise.

I turn them on, they boot and play music.
No connection drops or anything else.

Only pairing wasnt fully automagically.
I suppose if you’d buy 1st party brands, you’d get even that but that’s only a one time thing anyway so whatever.

Tested with a Pixel 7 Pro and Jabra Elite 85h

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They typically last longer than non iPhones.

More importantly, I am a middle aged software developer who doesn’t want to customise his phone. I am happy to have a handset where I am limited. Gone are my days of geeking out and customising everything. I just want something that works for me.

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2 points

The time to get an Android instead of an iPhone was any time since 2008 when Android first became available.

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1 point

My situation is complicated.

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14 points

What is side loading?

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Something Android has had since version 1.0: the ability to install apps from places other than the App Store.

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Ahh yeah i love that about Android. I never knew apple was so locked down, i should have known though

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There are ways to sideload apps on iOS, but it’s pain in the ass. From my memory (may not be 100% correct as of today):

  • many 3rd party apps not allowed in apps store are distributed in source code form. use xcode to compile the app yourself and load it to your phone. Works for a week, then you’ll have to install it again. Oh, and you can only install three at a time.

  • there are 3rd party apps stores that sort of working by distributing their developer certificates along with the 3rd party apps (e.g. tweakboxapp, etc). You’ll need to trust the developer certificates before you can install the apps. Oh, and apple frequently revoked their certificates so you’ll going to play cat and mouse with apple.

  • use altstore.io to install 3rd party app. The same 3 apps limit still apply, but this app automatically manage reinstallation for you, so it can reduce the pain of managing sideloaded apps just a bit.

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On iPhone you can only install an app via AppStore. Side loading is the act of installing an app without the AppStore (with a different store, or by sending a file from your computer… it allows to install apps that Apple doesn’t want on their store for various reasons like a retro game emulator to play Super Nintendo on your phone.

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The really frustrating thing about iOS is even if you make and computer your own app, you have to reinstall it every week despite paying a $100 developer fee. And you can only have a few apps installed that way.

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Yes. I use SideStore which allows you to renew the app right on your phone without a computer but it’s limited to 3 apps and one is SideStore so really only two sideloaded apps.

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If you pay the developer fee you can sign for a full year, and you can have unlimited apps, but I think you can only sign 10 a day or something.

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Loading your own software on a device independently of an app store, a.k.a. “the way general-purpose computers are supposed to work,” a.k.a. “exercising your property rights.”

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I’m betting countries that do qualify will have a massive uptick in phones sold, but also a massive uptick in phones being smuggled out of the country.

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I honestly doubt that. The average user doesn’t care about this, they probably don’t even know what “sideloading” means.

I’m also not gonna go out and buy an iPhone just because sideloading is an option now. Not saying no one will, it just won’t be enough to matter.

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Its not going to be hardware level lock but linked to Apple ID region. For some it will definitely be worth jumping through some hoops but I think 99% will bail at having to arrange payment method that confirms their EU residency.

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Thanks, brexit. yet another win 🙄

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