I literally do blame the Democrats for Trump, and if you don’t, you weren’t paying attention.
Plenty of us were critiquing Clinton’s campaign on those merits and were consistently talked down to in shocker the same way we’re being talked down to now. Shocker, she lost. I remember saying a few weeks before the election “We’re about to get Brexited.” I put my vote down for Clinton, because Trump is fucking insane, and that was clear before he was President. It was clear in the fucking 1980’s.
Being able to critique our leaders is supposed to be what is the difference between us and conservative voters. They’re the cult who unquestioningly believes all the bullshit that comes out of Trump’s mouth and diapers. I find it weird that people think we should be more like them in regards to our leaders like that would be a good thing.
The irony is, this would have worked if she wasn’t Hillary
didn’t she also illegally sabotage Bernie?
The primaries were rigged against Bernie so the insider’s pick would be on the democratic ticket, yes
But unfortunately, not illegal because they’re a private club, so they can make their own rules.
They literally argued in court it was legal for them to just smoke cigars in back rooms and choose the candidate, and that we should be happy that we even get sham proceedings.
They didn’t argue that they didn’t tip the scales for Clinton in court because discovery would have shown that wasn’t true.
If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; if you have the law on your side, pound the law; if you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table.
They couldn’t pound the facts so they pounded the law.
I mean, that’s fair and I’m fine with their right to do whatever they want in their club
It’s bullshit that I’m ‘part of the problem’ when I want nothing to do with them
Okay. Blame them all you want, just don’t stay home on Election Day. VOTE against Donald Trump as he’s the more immediate problem, then we demand voting reform…
When self proclaimed “reasonable” people insist the only way to protect democracy is to act like it’s broken I don’t think that measure is useful. If you want to claim democracy is worth defending then I should be able to exercise the benefits of that democracy. But if you’re telling me I’m a bad person for doing that I have to ask you, a “reasonable” member of society, what benefit is democracy serving?
I mean, my post is only entirely about people who immediately make such an assumption simply because I’m bothering to criqitue.
Why don’t you get your head out of your ass and ask me, or check any number of numerous comments in here where I said I’m voting for Democrats because I literally don’t have a choice.
But sure, all you fucking idiots coming in here and saying this shit fifty times isn’t exactly what I’m talking about.
What if Dems gave us something to vote FOR instead. What a world that would be.
instead
How does that conflict with what I said? Are you holding your vote hostage until the Party is perfect…?
I mean, I do intend to withhold my vote from democrats who do not share my values, as should anyone who does not feel that democrats, or a specific democrat, represents their interests in government.
But what I was getting at is that for the last several elections democrats have asked voters to come out to stop the other guys from winning. And if all you care is make sure that things don’t get worse, then by all means vote for democrats. But they haven’t made things better. And that’s not even what their offering you. They are offering you exactly what you have right now. And I get it, no one wants the other guy to win, but that doesn’t motivate people as much as Dems want it to. If they were instead laying out progressive policy platforms, maybe people would be excited to vote for them. Then people like me, who are not represented by democrats but its as close as it gets I guess, might be able to stomach voting for them or at least not negatively impact their chances of winning.
You catch more flies with honey, as they say.
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The Democrats run “centrist” right-lite candidates with crappy campaigns.
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Not voting for the Democrat candidate lets the much worse Republican in.
Two things can be true at the same time.
Okay… You’re going to have to do more to convince. I agree both of those things are true. I don’t want Biden to be the president for another 4 years because I think he’s bad for the country in other ways than Trump and he’s CURRENTLY ENABLING A GENOCIDE. But sure. Dems shouldn’t have to earn our votes. Blue no matter who. Even if their pro-life, pro-genocide, and pro taking corporate money.
Critiquing Democrats is not endorsing Republicans but constantly saying Biden is bad over and over and making sure that’s the only thing that is said is endorsing Republicans. You really think people who hate Biden also say “but remember, the Republicans are worse.”
They don’t want this to happen? They shouldn’t suck so bad. It’s their own fault because they’re incompetent.
You’re not supposed to watch Curb Your Enthusiasm and go “now that’s how I should act!”
Ok now that you’ve that, if someone were to look at your comment without any context, what do you think the underlying message is? To me it says “Democrats are bad and only them.” You took the time to criticize the Democrats and only them which implies you have nothing bad to say about the Republicans.
You know what they say about assuming, right?
I reject your assertion that I have a responsibility to make every statement of mine comprehensive and chalk full of context, or some political alignment chart. Ridiculous
The dnc should have let Bernie Sanders become the nominatee like the voters wanted, instead of rigging the primary for Hillary.
It’s been adjudicated enough. Bernie was popular among the voters but Hillary moreso.
He had a second chance in 2020 and the advantages that came with being the frontrunner early on. Still lost.
Then all the selfish pieces of shit who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries can elect him in 2024 all on their own.
Yeah they’re already planning on it. They’re not gonna waste time on people who will be forever litigating something that was 3 election cycles ago. Most Bernie supporters voted for Hillary, just like he asked them to. Wonder who he’ll support this time.
I voted for Bernie in the primary, and I wanted him to win. I think the DNC was shady but I was under the impression that the voters DID choose Hillary.
I remember looking at which areas in MA went to Hillary, it was most of the non-rural ones.
The DNC favored Hillary over a guy who wasn’t even a Democrat, which shouldn’t really have been a surprise. Regardless of the DNC shenanigans the voters still could have choosen Bernie, they just didn’t.
