As a Canadian this reminds me of Quebec. They’re always going on about seceding, but they’re land locked, and without the rest of the country they’d be financially and socially FUCKED.
Reminder that Texas’s yearly operating budget is roughly 51 billion, and they receive 62 billion in federal aid, so without the rest of the country, Texas can’t even run the state
but they’re land locked
Yeah, except for the main East maritime entryway and port lol. Classic good ol’ Quebec bashing.
That’s not how that math works out, you are not including taxes collected. The balance is still negative but there’s a smaller gap.
And what percentage of the national debt will they take with them when they leave? Same with Alberta. That’s where it all falls apart.
Texas is on the Gulf of Mexico… Also, I double checked and you used a proper ellipsis so we can be friends.
Not only is it not landlocked, it separates all of the Atlantic Maritime provinces from the rest of Canada, and governs part of the Great Lake waterways.
It is funny to see the calls like this and also the calls for civil war. The number of texans capable of shooting down an F35 with the puny small arms they bought is zero. Shoot, replace F35 with any plane built in the past 50 years.
That is why there will never be a civil war.
Before you start mumbling something about republicans flying F35s, keep in mind you actually have to have an ounce of intelligence to fly one. If they had any intelligence they would not be republican.
You need a fuck-ton of infrastructure to keep fighter jets flying. The service time to fight time ratio is ~18:1. Nothing but an established state has the organization and the logistics supply to keep one in the air.
The south with cries again 😂
Republicans: “We’d win a 2nd civil war, we have all the guns!”
Bitch, do you think your civilian small-arms could stand against the full military might of the federal government!? Not even saying it’s a good thing…
The guys half way across the world from the US army, where the only thing at stake was a country they’d bombed to shit previously?
Which is exactly why the US isn’t going to carpet bomb their own territory. One, ruling over a rubble-laden wasteland isn’t very appealing. Destroying your own infrastructure isn’t good for GDP. Two, soldiers are going to have a lot harder time bombing their own homeland, regardless of how well trained they are.
On their own turf the USA has all the maps of everything including of what’s underground, they already have records of who are the potential insurrectionists, where they live, what they drive, who their families are and they also have the support of a huge part of the population.
Oh and good luck to the guys who own machine guns and hunting rifles when facing drones flying high enough that you can’t see them with your naked eye.
It would have nothing to do with Afghanistan.
Same argument was made about Jan 6, but when they called in the national guard they showed right the fuck up. Military aren’t to be fucked with, they know the chain of command. They know if they step out of line in that way their entire military career (and most likely civilian career and livelihood) is over. It would take several people high up disobeying commands, knowing they’ll probably get court martialed, and everyone underneath them for that to happen.
Stop fear mongering. Military knows who is in charge and where their paychecks come from. I’m more worried about who controls the military because that super loyal knife cuts both ways.
Jan 6 insurgents got pretty close to overthrowing the government. Imagine if they were armed.
Lol. I understand its symbolism, but let’s be real: they overwhelmed a building and barely clashed with poorly-staffed local police. In no reality were they in any way “close to overthrowing the government”.
Taliban tied up the US for 20 years in Afghanistan, look who is in charge now.
There’s a pretty big difference between wanting to conquer/occupy a region and helping a local population police it. Plus, once government and social support for US presence in Afghanistan dropped, someone was going to control it.
Your Federal Army isn’t going to do as well as you think it is.
It’s not “my” federal military, and I’m not supporting them. But anyone who thinks they can win a war against the US military on US soil is out of their mind.
Historically yes, an uprising of civilians has a great chance at asymmetrical warfare on their own turf.
You can’t destroy your own infrastructure like you can someone else’s.
Will they win? Almost certainly not.
Can they force some concessions? Probably
If they secdee it is not “your own infrastructure” for the main country anymore.
They wouldn’t stand a chance. They’re power grid is so brittle. The US military would destroy it probably within minutes of an actual war being started. The people who can’t stand the heat or the cold (depending on the time of year) would turn on them so quickly.
Just like the south in the civil war, they don’t have the infrastructure for the logistics needed to fight a war.
It wouldn’t happen like that. We would have an insurgency and lots of terrorist attacks. You would have towns and areas that are under insurgent control, with reprisal killings at night. Shit like that. I can’t tell you to take it seriously, but you ought to at least consider how it would actually look if it happened.
It really depends on what would be happening in the military and intelligence services.
I don’t think people really understand just how much a civil conflict would be a war of information as opposed to a war of arms.
If things got bad enough domestically that laws like the Patriot Act were expanded and agencies that haven’t been supposed to operate domestically suddenly could, and those agencies were still 100% under government control, you’d have vans (or simply drones) taking out domestic terrorists in the middle of the night right before the day they were supposed to organize to kill and terrorize their neighbors.
The US could become an almost unthinkable police state under the control of a government like China’s or if we had a Stalin-esque administration.
This is the part that Y’all Queda don’t fully grasp. They aren’t hiding out in caves in Afghanistan or air gapped in Pakistan. The only thing keeping them safe from the monsters under their bed that they largely don’t realize are there is the very government they think would be such a bright idea to try to overthrow. And if that government saw them as enough of an existential threat to unleash the monsters on them, well, they’d have quickly succeeded in overthrowing the US government in a sense, but wouldn’t be around to see it.
“The government” isn’t a monolith. It is made up of human beings with differing political opinions. US military assets are spread all around the country. US intelligence agencies are full of people that would prefer the far right to the far left. I think you are also overestimating the power of intelligence agencies.
- It’s not going to happen
- If it did, they would lose
That doesn’t mean I don’t take it seriously. We already have electrical substations getting shot by “Y’all-Qaeda”…
Well even if they lose, I’m sure that won’t be much comfort to the good people they kill along the way. I just don’t think we should be glib at the thought of open civil conflict. Looking at it this way convinced me that I don’t want to be without the means to defend myself and my loved ones in the event our “cold” civil war suddenly becomes “hot”.
The Kremlin loves these idiots.
