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Why shall Italiens pronounce like Americans?

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They are asking because kids are kids no matter where you live. If we use the same word for the dish as Italians, it stands to reason that children who are still learning would have the same issue regardless of location.

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It’s the same word on paper, but pronounced different. Italians tend to speak the vowels longer, with a slightly different sound (the “a” in American sounds like an “uh”, in Italian like a long “ah”). They also speak out both t’s separately.

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So how do Italian kids tend to misprounce the word as they’re developing speech?

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Exactly! I think one of the fun things about growing up is realizing that your personal experience isn’t completely unique, and that other people have shared similar experiences. I also don’t think it’s weird to have the idea that many of the things we enjoy and find funny (like puns and silly sounds) would cross language and cultural boundaries.

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Farts are universally funny

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Kids being a blank canvas and universal is a theory that’s been deemed untrue. The kids would have been subjected to s very different soundscape of periode talking and will have practiced different sounds long before they started using words.

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OP meant when they’re learning to speak do they mispronounce it similarly.

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I was once an Italian kid. My parents would have beat me if I pronounced spaghetti wrong.

So no. They don’t.

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Ah yes, threats of abuse, famous for always having the outcome they intend

[edit: especially when dealing with children who are still developing their ability to speak and comprehend speech]

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It was a critique of being raised by Italian parents in the 80s/90s. Please be aware that I made a joke

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It was good. I enjoyed it. Not everything needs to trigger some morally righteous response in our world.

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And if they do, they won’t be able to tell you after

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Kids are about the only thing Italians can beat in a fight.

Amirite?

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Surely they must do? Like kids are not going to find certain sounds like ‘sp’ easier depending on what country they’re from but maybe the sounds they learn first with be different?

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it was ‘sketti’ for me back then, and it is still decades later.

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Kids do in fact have an easier time pronouncing syllables they hear about them. And from about age 3 it starts going downhill. At 9 it’s near impossible to learn to speak a new language without accent.

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I agree, but things like “Sp”, is that common in italian? I’m not sure but I’m thinking not. It’s interesting and now I need someone with an Italian toddler to chip in.

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I’ve heard that it’s until 12~14, depending on exposure.

I know people who moved to Canada from countries with little exposure at or after the age of 9 who still speak their mother tongue at home, and yet have no accent at all when speaking English. A very linguistically different language from English, at that.

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That’s true, but also, speech-motor control develops throughout childhood, and one of the last things children develop is consonant clusters. This means words like (sp)a(gh)etti are harder for most children to say than, for example, “banana”, regardless of their language. Children tend to replace difficult clusters with one of their sounds, and when there’s more than one difficult cluster in a word, sometimes the other sound of one gets transposed in place of the other.

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Pronounciation differs in Italian, so when they mispronounce, it probably wont’t sound like their American counter parts.

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No, they pronounce it correctly.

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Exactly, it’s Pischetti

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Bruschetta

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I think OP was asking about young kids who are still learning to pronounce words correctly.

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I think I quick edit in the title would have cleared up a lot of confusion here.

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You know there are sources for sound and moving pictures on the internet?

https://piped.video/ph1lXptuR7Q

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You know your reading comprehension isn’t that great?

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Ah, thx. No I really didn’t get the question. Now I do.

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