What if your dev experience was entirely in the cloud?
These days, launching applications means navigating an endless sea of complexity. We felt this pain at Google, so we started Project IDX, an experimental new initiative aimed at bringing your entire full-stack, multiplatform app development workflow to the cloud.
Project IDX gets you into your dev workflow in no time, backed by the security and scalability of Google Cloud.
Project IDX lets you preview your full-stack, multiplatform apps as your users would see them, with upcoming support for built-in multi-browser web previews, Android emulators, and iOS simulators.
As a Vim fanatic, I can’t say I’ll ever feel comfortable working in a browser, but some parts of IDX seem interesting. I wonder what the implications are for proprietary code.
I do think it solves an interesting problem where you’re working on your desktop and decide to move to your laptop and continue working on the same codebase, but don’t want to commit early so you can pull down the changes to your laptop.
It reminds me vaguely of Shells.
This is wrong on so many levels, I cannot fathom where I could start talking about it.
- private us company
- feeding their ai just to eventually negate myself the chance of those small side projects that pay small money
- us company
- chromium browsers
- governments shouldn’t allow for source code, as trivial as it may be, to be centralized in another nation
- us corporation
- google (in my experience) devastating ux, ui, docs
- go and try to use aws, azure, you name it services (this ip/fqdm doesn’t seem to be part of google services! would you like to try out or service? start with our free plan with the performance of a C64, and choose to upgrade whenever you want!)
- us based private corp
- chromium browsers
- this functionality is now deprecated (rewrite all of your f**** code, you absolute dumbass…) Ugh…
A good manager knows that an employee is productive whenever they’re comfortable. With that said, I agree. This is an excuse for upper management and C-suite executives to make employee-hostile policies.
Instead of buying developers a powerful workstation and letting them do install their own software and create workflows that they’re comfortable with, they can be handed a Chromebook and told to start producing code like the code monkey they’re seen as.
The “benefits” will be touted as:
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Cheaper hardware costs.
Developers don’t need a powerful machine to run tooling or compile software, and cloud IDEs and build servers are pay-as-used. The reasoning would be: paying $300 for a Chromebook and $25 monthly is cheaper than $1200 for a new machine every few years. -
Reduced support burden.
If developers don’t need to install their own software, they won’t need to submit requests to IT. -
Infrastructure security.
Less software is less surface area. Since all the developer’s software is hosted in the cloud, their computers don’t need to run anything but a VPN, web browser, and restricted user permissions. -
“Productivity”
Browsing Lemmy on company time? Not anymore! Your development machines are distraction-free, and we made sure of that with our root CA and enterprise policy settings.
I don’t see how this could be positive for any Software developer in the long run. I totally see how this could be positive for CEO/CTO, Project Managers, in the long run, and I see a few short term advantages for Software developers.
Let’s be clear, I saw that coming since Microsoft bought Github, and I am scared by the direction this is taking. The end goal is to move more and more control and power to non-software people about Software development.
By forcing every developer to not use their own tools this will have a lot of advantage for CEO/CTOs but this is terrible for software developers:
- telemetry: they will try to find a formula to assess who are the best performer in a team. And as with SEO, any formula could be gamed, the best at this game, will not be the best software developers, but the one that will learn how to cheat.
- global team tooling enforcement: vim vs emacs etc… ? Forget about it, the only way to work on a project will be via this unique allowed editor.
- assets protection: impossible to download the code on your local computer to use external tools on it. The only way to have analysis tools will be via these “allowed” analysis tools. This will make code analysis and experimentation a lot more difficult.
- Locked by promoting vendor-specific applications. As you will focus to make your code/app/product work only for Google Cloud for example, you will naturally use Google-Cloud-only features that will make your code difficult (or impossible) to move to another Cloud provider, or god-forbid, host your product on a non-cloud or private made cloud.
And I can think of other possible drawbacks but my comment is already long enough.
Hell no, no way I’d trust Google with my code. Personal or otherwise. Let me guess this would work only in Chrome.
Hell no, no way I’d trust Google with my code. Personal or otherwise.
Ditto. But at the risk of playing devil’s advocate, if you were writing free software code you were going to stick on a code forge somewhere anyway, would you still be against it?
Are there Google services that only work in Chrome? I don’t use any of them, so I don’t know. I do know Google is generally less annoying than Microsoft in that department.
Are there Google services that only work in Chrome?
this is the gateway to this
I do know Google is generally less annoying than Microsoft in that department.
how this? through Firefox I experience ms websites the same as with edge. google websites? experience is full of small differences from chrome
Edit:formatting
Microsoft don’t allow Bing chat to run in anything but Edge. I don’t know if there are others, but that’s the one I’ve noticed recently.
how this? through Firefox I experience ms websites the same as with edge. google websites? experience is full of small differences from chrome
Firefox is my main browser. In my experience, Microsoft services don’t work at all on Firefox. I can’t say I use much of either company’s services, but Google tends to be more lax in some departments. For example, the Google Pixel is the only Android device that allows you to securely unlock the bootloader and install another operating system on it, rather than forcing you to root the device.
I’m not a fan of either company, but I get the impression Google is less actively hostile toward their customers than Microsoft. For the most part.
Eclipse che has missed the train by tying itself to red hat.
