Jack Ryan S3 E3

124 points

Man… Im watching Stargate sg1 with my kiddo. My Plex server is down for a bit… so I switched over to prime for an episode or two…

It’s dark, it’s audio is horrible, it’s 4:3 formatted it’s horribly compressed and it has commercials.

Talk about a poor viewing experience.

Not watching is better than watching…

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37 points

“it’s a strange game. The only way to win is not to play.”

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29 points

You shoukd consider cancelling prime, bezos doesn’t need more moneys ^^

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8 points

That’s super tempting honestly. Idk that it benefits is at this point.

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2 points

I canceled Prime a year ago, just before their announced price increase, and it’s been great. I sign up for free, month-long trials of Prime on their website a few times a year, and I just accept slower, free shipping the rest of the time.

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24 points

Stargate was 4:3, so there’s that…

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12 points

Yeah I really doubt streaming would change anything to 4:3.

Disney+ famously changed classic Simpsons to 16:9 and in the process, cropped enough to make some visual gags not work, but I can’t imagine them preferring 4:3 over 16:9.

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6 points

i’ve watched more than a few shows that have been brutally hacked into wide format from the original 4:3. the practice is horrible. they need to stop pulling that shit and let the viewer decide whether to crop the frame or not–or put a proper pan & scan up instead of a blind hack job and leave the original format available, too.

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19 points

The worst part is that even buying SG1 on Bluray gives a bad experience, because they fucked up the 5.1 audio.

So what did the pirates do? Combined the Bluray video with the better DVD 5.1 audio! Best of both worlds.

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4 points

Huh I wondered. That makes a lot of sense.

The version I have looks and sounds so much better than the blurays I have… Tho like you said better audio, widescreen and I’m fairly certain it’s been ai upscaled as well. I’d have to go back and look but my physical disks don’t hold a candle…

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11 points

SG1 was shot in 4:3 until like season 8 or so.

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40 points

SG-1 was shot in widescreen from day one, on cameras that had framing marks for 4:3 and 16:9. A 4:3 cut was sent to TV networks and a 16:9 cut was canned until the show was released on DVD.

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2 points

Unless they were shooting with anamorphic lenses, that’s still cropping 4:3 to 16:9.

The real issue is that AFAIK the show’s never been remastered from film. All we have are DVD transfers - and filters on top of that.

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SG1 was shot in film and mastered in 16:9. 16mm in the first 3 seasons, 35mm 3-7, and then they moved to digital HD cameras season 8 onwards.

Many shows from the 90s were [edit: shot on film]. That’s why you can get a widescreen HD release of Seinfeld, among others.

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That’s not always a good thing. If it was meant to be 4:3 the extra space on the frame can have set rigging, lights, microphone booms, and in case of stunts even crash pads.

It’s one of the reasons the HD rescan of Buffy:TVS sucks. That still needs a proper 4:3 HD remaster.

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Right, but the general public only ever saw the broadcast versions, which were predominantly in 4:3. Also, Seinfeld was only shot in 4:3 as it’s a multi cam sitcom. The widescreen version you’ve seen is a crop of the original 4:3 picture.

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1 point

Wow, TIL.

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6 points

That’s what I’m watching right now too! I rewatch every year or two.

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3 points

Such a great universe! :)

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98 points

The tradeoff kinda made sense at the dawn of streaming, when the transaction was basically trading quality for better pricing and convenience.

Nowadays? Yeaaaaah I don’t know about that chief

Crazy to think that we lost all the advantages that streaming offered, kept all the disadvantages, piled on a few more disadvantages on top of that, and people went “sure that makes sense 24 bucks a month worth it bro”

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24 points

All these companies play the frogs in a pot game. Slowly make things shittier and shittier in tiny increments and everyone’s sitting there in boiling water eventually like “this is fine.” I mean there’s still people with cable TV in 2024. And Netflix has done nothing but get worse for the last 3-4 years and their subscriber count just had a decent boost last year so they were like “lol sweet, we’re canceling basic ad free tier in 2024, eat shit”

It’s felt pretty damn nice to finally give all these companies the boot. They got too greedy. But there’ll still be hordes of people just happily paying an ever rising price for this stuff I guess.

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11 points

Most people would not be able to discern the difference between the top 2 images. Chroma subsampling? Aliasing? Bitrate? These are words that we understand but your average TV watcher has never heard uttered.

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18 points

You don’t need to be an expert to say “that’s blurry and looks like shit in comparison”.

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8 points

Even understanding all this, a 2 hour movie in a 2.5gb hevc file is still a very tempting thing. Every movie I could ever want, at acceptable quality, all in under 8tb of space is really amazing.

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4 points

I hate that i have to agree with you.

Last time my wife was watching a movie. It was a local file, and when i walked by, i saw that it was at max 720p and a bit choppy. I remarked that she should tell me which movie it was so i can replace it.

She asked “why would you?” - and i know that her eyes are in perfect shape. She simply does not recognize it when a video plays at crap quality, and she would have to search hard in the above pictures, while i saw the difference in an instant.

She hates ads just like me tho, so a pirates life it is for her :-)

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3 points

At this point even paying money to pirate stuff makes sense. Like setting up a VPS with all the Servarr components and building your own private streaming service.

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84 points

streaming just has godawful UX now as well. the apps play you commercials while in the menu, you have to worry about buffering, you aren’t allowed to take screenshots (which is the most numbskulled DRM i’ve ever seen; they allowed it in the old days and everything was fine AND either way people have ALREADY managed to rip and share the raw footage. what’s the point??), 75% of the fucking content on amazon you have to pay an extra fee for, media appears and disappears at the whim of pigheaded suits, prices go up every 6 months because fuck you, the blindingly stupid netflix ‘single family home’ restriction…

watching tv is meant to be fun, not introduce a whole other layer of bureaucratic bullshit into our lives

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7 points

And don’t forget that Amazon Prime doesn’t just make you pay extra, they make you subscribe to additional subscriptions. I think there’s like 3 extra sunscriptions for anime alone.

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6 points

IIRC the screenshot thing was the tipping point for me. Tried taking a screenshot in the Crunchyroll app for Android, and it came out black…

Looked into plex, and it’s all been better ever since

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Honestly, the netflix “single family home” thing isn’t as bad as I first imagined. I still share my account and we never have any problems.

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27 points

That means you’re not yet being affected by it.

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1 point

Yeah I have. They’ve propted me a couple times to confirm that I am in the single family home. Just confirm it and that’s that. (We’ve made a shared email account for netflix specific). Maybe that’s not the full force of the crackdown?

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46 points

Maybe I’m blind, maybe it’s me viewing this on a phone, but I legitimately can’t tell the difference.

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18 points

Zoom in on the guy’s face. The one on the right is crystal clear in comparison to the left.

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15 points
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I can see the difference around the actor’s skin and the environment, its less fuzzy. It’s hard to tell the difference, definitely. It’s compression quality.

What you have to understand about lossy compression is:

  • it throws out data you won’t be able to perceive in ideal conditions (color ranges)
  • it throws out data that doesn’t change between frames
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12 points

If you’re using an app, you may need to adjust image quality in the settings. I thought the same thing until I tapped the HD button in Boost.

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2 points

I peeled my eyes off and i can’t see the nuance either

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35 points

Yeah, if the streaming providers ever switch over to AV1 that would be an interesting comparison.

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11 points

AV1? that’s a codec, right? I see in the preferences section for Piped. Is better than AVC (h.2640)?

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37 points

It’s also better than H.265/HEVC. Plus, it’s open-source and royalty free.

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7 points

Sweet!

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5 points

Better quality per file size than HEVC? cite?

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19 points

Yes, AV1 is the next big deal. You can compress the hell out of the video and it still looks near original. I’ve re-encode some of my locally ripped movies for fun to see how it looks and it’s really impressive.

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13 points

it still looks near original.

Presumably you know, but for anyone else: the word for this is “transparent.” It’s when the codec leaves no noticeable artifacts.

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6 points

I wonder if the apple vision pro is able to play AV1 files 🤔 i guess, would be really bad if not

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3 points

Can you tell me more about reencoding to save space?

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1 point

I wonder if it’s possible to re-encode from H.265/HEVC to AV1

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5 points

It’s h.264, just FYI.

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