Fifth of men aged 16-29 look favourably on social media influencer Andrew Tate

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I can hate on the boomers because they had every opportunity to not be shitty. I think in the case of gen z, society ultimately failed them. They have no bright future to look forward to, just rampant inequality and a dying planet. When some loon comes around and tells them all they can go off and be little apes venting their frustration on society with violence and bigotry there’s less reason to ignore them than there should be. That’s not to say everyone’s blameless, but it’s not like 20% of the cohort was born evil and will forever be that way; something external influenced this situation and we need to fix it.

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What a bizarre and ageist take.

Edit: This interaction is not exactly helping in persuading people that gen z aren’t really bigoted. In fact it will righteously confirm such opinions.

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You’re wrong, not because you’re a millennial but because you are saying wrong shit.

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So what’s wrong with what i’m saying? Feminism is stupid? Well, you should read up on the history of feminism and especially the fourth wave, that basically is nothing else but neoliberalism in it’s worst form. Everything before 2010 basically.

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I’m not clear on whether you’re saying that all feminism is stupid (obviously wrong), feminism has already accomplished its goal and is no longer necessary (another laughable type of wrong), that modern feminism has some sort of revolutionary obligation with regard to capital (silly as fuck and wrong), or that feminism must stay the same or inherently betray its founding principles (OK, which wave was OK with you? How far back do you think women should go? Wrong, wrong wrong.). Which type of wrong are you?

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Using the word wokeism is the mask coming off.

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Sure.

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but feminism and “wokeism” is just stupid.

Christ

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“Woke” means anything anyone wants it to mean at the time, so any claim you make about wokeism is devoid of importance, just any claim I make about it is. You could claim wokeism is responsible for colony collapse disorder in bees and I wouldn’t be able to argue with you, it’s an effectively meaningless word.

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That’s pretty much why i put it in quotas.

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Please define what the fuck “wokeism” is. Feminism isn’t stupid either, it’s necessary and has never stopped being necessary.

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Feminism isn’t stupid either

That was badly worded. The fourth wave of feminism is stupid in my opinion.

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It is not stupid, it’s necessary.

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Feminism in the 70s, 80s and 90s was women trying to be heard and taken seriously.

Forced quotas are because nothing changed and the rise of fuckheads like Tate is directly related. Too many men think that feminism is a zero sum game. i.e Women getting more rights means men are losing rights. Despite the fact that all they want is EQUAL rights.

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It’s because they know deep down that their lifestyle is built on the backs of women and minorities instead of on their own effort.

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Despite the fact that all they want is EQUAL rights.

And that’s the lie. Try to tell those “equal rights and quotas” people the same should apply to men in jobs heavily dominated by women and a sizeable and very loud part of them will explode in your face screaming and slavering because you dared to even mention the idea of equality.

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Which jobs do you mean?

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Jobs heavily dominated by women are not well-paying jobs, so no one cares. Are there even countries that have quota for women outside of executive positions and politics?

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Tbh, I’d think men would self exclude from these jobs because they’re afraid they will look less masculine working them.

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To be fair, men will lose privileges. Before they had to compete only with other men for that juicy executive position. Now they also face women, lowering their chance to get the job. That’s just one example and it is absolutely necessary for this to happen.

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Losing male privilege is not losing rights that’s a distinction often missed.

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‘Forced quotas’

Look at you talk like men we’re never handed anything and absolutely 100% qualified for their jobs this whole time. Now everyone gets handed a chance to fuck it all up without consequence and be mediocre. And this is where you’re drawing the line. HhhMmmk.

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Genz is not be blamed for this, previous generation failed them.

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Each individual is fully responsible for the views they carry, there are things instilled in us growing up by previous generations, but it’s on you to improve on their mistakes.

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And how do they know what’s a mistake and what’s not a mistake? Nature v nurture.

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Prefrontal cortex.

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It’s almost like there’s been a continuous effort in right wing media to demonize and bastardize feminists. When they talk about feminism they always screech about the most extreme views held by the smallest amount of people, and make it sound like that represents the entire group.

It’s the same strategy they use to attack any group.

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Big yikes. Hopefully this is a symptom of radicalization on both sides, and not a trend of increasing conservativism overall.

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