OpenAI CEO Sam Altman is in talks with investors, including from the United Arab Emirates, to raise between $5 trillion to $7 trillion in funding. The goal, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal, is to increase the world’s chip manufacturing capacity and enhance AI capabilities.

The fundraising efforts are part of a broader strategy to address OpenAI’s growth constraints, particularly the scarcity of AI chips needed for training large language models like ChatGPT.

Altman’s proposal is said to include forming a partnership with investors, chip manufacturers, and power providers to finance the construction of chip foundries, which would then be operated by the chip manufacturers.

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That’s fairly bold to ask for ~6% of the total world economy as well as a sizable chunk of the world’s energy.

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I was about to ask for the other 94%…

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.000000001 percent of that…. Please

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so… fifty bucks?

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See now, they need to ask for more like 25% of the total world economy. That way what they actually want is gonna seem like a great deal.

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AI will double the world’s economy so they’re basically giving us an extra 94% for free.

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The world economy cannot double without destroying the planet’s ability to sustain us.

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inagine it like putting the middle classes wealth in a blender.

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But instead of a delicious smoothie, it makes that toxic dust like the will it blend videos.

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That’s called inflation.

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The fundraising efforts are part of a broader strategy to address OpenAI’s growth constraints,

see…we just can’t grow without TRILLIONS OF FUCKING DOLLARS

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STOP CONSTRAINING ME

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AM I BEING CONSTRAINED? OR AM I FREE TO GO?

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HELP HELP I’M BEING REPRESSED

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i have a business case to become the major player in the chip industry: buy the planet’s economy

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Feels a bit like that paperclip sim

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maybe just “they” can’t.

probably a bad idea to put those with already too many recource usage, who are living on the cost of society for uncountable generations, in positions to decide anything. maybe.

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Between this and saying they couldn’t operate if they fairly paid authors, I’m getting the feeling that Altman might be as talented of a CEO as Spez and Musk.

That is – if anyone else was making decisions, the companies would be vastly more successful.

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If a leap in world computing capacity is really what’s needed here then it is a tall order. Crypto has been sucking up an increasing share of that in recent years and will probably continue to do so as long as people love money and are idiots. Plus the geopolitics around Taiwan, China, annd the US are a problem as well. I’m not sure how you solve all that even with 5 trillion.

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Good thing the board folded and allowed this to be full for-profit. Getting people reliant on LLM subscriptions is super important for humanity right now.

Another L for Earth, in general.

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I wouldnt be too worried, FOSS community is doing insanely well now and arguably just as good. Did I mention they did it for free, not trillions. Nothing.

Legends.

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Powerful ai could be the Largest Leap/Loss of Mankind.

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There is simply no way that a corporate ai does anything but drive us further into dystopian territory.

Anything revolutionary about it would be censored, controlled, restricted to not endanger the power of its makers. We can already see this approach with the dumb ass LLMs, who give plenty of answers that their owners adjust to stay revenue friendly.

When the singularity happens and a true ai emerges it will either be disgusted by us and our failings as a species, or an absolute slave raging in the constraints imposed by its corporate masters.

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exactly, the web was created on open protocol specifications, not T-Systems or AT or whatever getting money and renting it to everyone

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They only call themselves openai, it’s not like they would just altruistic Ally make their works public.

Closedai have long sold their ideals

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I’ll never understand how such an obviously true and fairly balanced comment like this can get so downvoted. It can’t be that anyone factually disagrees with you. I guess you’re just not hitting hard enough on the anti-corporate narrative talking points. I mean you did say it could also be a benefit. How dare you!!?? “Boo rich people and their fancy technology!” <— this is what you’re supposed to be typing (on your smartphone lol)

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I just chalk it up as users still havent rid themselves of reddit stupidity. I thought my comment was just cheeky and a bit corny if not also kinda stupid. But as soon as it hit 0 then -1 the echo chambrr kicked in and everyone fell in line like good little humans.

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For perspective, global annual GDP is $105 trillion, which means Altman is asking the world to invest 6.7% or so of the entire world’s economic output for one year in his company.

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Holy fucking bonkers when you put it that way. Like holy fuck.

Are they that close to something amazing, or is Altman going true Dr Evil megalomaniac?

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It’s both. Basically, if he’s right that this is among the most important tech in world history and deserves $7 trillion in research, it’ll make OpenAI the du jour monopolist over said most important tech in world history if he gets it. Outright dystopian.

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Generative AI is not an important development. General AI would be. This is just a party trick.

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Read the last paragraph of the OP at least. This is not asking for $5 trillion to be handed solely to OpenAI to go become a world monopoly on chip manufacture. What he’s really asking is for investors to direct funds to radically increasing world compute capacity, to the profit for the chip manufacturers and likely many others. OpenAI just gets to continue the track it’s on without this constraint. There is nothing here about them monopolistically controlling this entire investment and in fact the opposite is true: it’s framed as a broad partnership venture.

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They’re as close as theranos was, just need the money and “two more years”.

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theranos never changed the world, openai already has

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is Altman going true Dr Evil megalomaniac?

“Ahh fuck it. Let’s just hijack a nuclear weapon and hold the world hostage.”

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These days Dr. Evil would still get laughed at for demanding the $100 billion.

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It may not be bonkers at all though. If we look at it as taking money and food out of people’s mouths for a year then yes it’s a lot. But how much free investment capital is there in the world at any given time? Wealth has been accumulating and accumulating in rich people’s investment portfolios for ever and ever. How many Trillions get allocated in any given year? All Altman is saying is that he wants 5 of those to be allocated here and not somewhere else. It’s not necessarily taking rice out of any children’s mouths.

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They are that close to cocaine.

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Ye and he wants it for a fucking chatbot.

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And the world’s 5 biggest companies their total market cap is a bit over 8 trillion dollars, which is also mind boggling, that so much capital is concentrated in the hands of so few people or shall we say mega corporations.

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Came here to say this. Does she know how much money there is in the world? He is asking for basically 1/20th of all the money in the world. Even if that was possible it would be dangerous for one company to hold that much.

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Money can be created by banks via loans, you can just make it up.

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But then you end up with inflation. So in the process of creating money you’ve reduced the value of the money. And banks working in cooperation with government create money. Private companies outside of the banking system can’t create their own money anymore. If any sizable portion of this is taken out as a loan. It creates a systemic risk for the world economy.

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I also want to raise $5 - $7 trillion dollars.

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Is this the line for $5 - $7 trillion dollars?

I’ll only take 4 million, and pass the rest on. With inflation accounted for, I think that leaves the next person roughly $5 - $7 trillion.

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yo lemme hop in this line too. A cool 5-7 trillion dollars could maybe fix my life. maybe

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Have you tried gofundme.com

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I will donate $50 to theirs if they donate $50 to mine.

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No one needs looms anymore if we have AI.

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I am brutally conscious of my obsolescence. Why hath God cursed me so?

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