I’m not a trump supporter but I’m also not a sensationalism supporter. He made an analogy in his post, “he gave out a traffic ticket instead of a death sentence.” Now we accept that the sentence given by the judge was not a traffic ticket, but we insist that the death sentence part was meant literally? Now honestly, I hate Trump as much as anyone but honest, accurate, and irrefutable criticisms are going to get us farther than stretches of sensational word-twisting.
The problem here, I think is, is that Trump does stuff like this all the time. He says things that are absurd, or outlandish and people always say “he’s joking”, “don’t take everything he says literally”, but at what point do you take him literally?
You think for one second if he had won in 2020 he wouldnt be trying to run for reelection again? Or trying to declare himself president for life? He said multiple times his first term shouldnt count because they spied on his campaign or the impeachments. He said the US should try president for life as China had done during his term. Trump also praised Rodrigo Duterte who encouraged murdering drug users/pushers.
We can stick to facts all we want but the one thing we should do, is believe Trump when he says something.
Yeah I’m going to block this community if something like this comes up on my feed again.
While I get what you’re saying, Trump benefits far too much from not literally saying things, but letting his supporters run wild with what he’s implying.
It’s no different from when he starts a rumor by saying “People have been telling me…” followed by some shit he just made up about an opponent. He gets to claim immunity from being the one that starts the rumor while at the same time putting it out there for his supporters to grab onto.
The question is, do you believe that he wants his supporters to think he literally wants the death penalty for Hunter Biden?
If the answer is yes, then he shouldn’t be defended in any way.
He speaks far too colloquially and off-the-cuff for a President for my liking. A complete buffoon who can’t speak unless it’s in hyperbole.
He speaks far too colloquially and off-the-cuff for a President for my liking.
This is actually one of the traits I wish more members of our government had. We don’t need or want big, fancy political doublespeak. Just tell us like it is like we’re regular people.
The problem isn’t that Trump speaks colloquially or off-the-cuff. The problem is that he’s …
A complete buffoon who can’t speak unless it’s in hyperbole.
Give me someone who can speak like Trump but has the intelligence and desire to work for the people like AOC or Bernie Sanders and I wouldn’t be able to throw my money towards their election campaign fast enough.
I fail to see any example of Trump’s speech patterns that are ideal. AOC speaks far more intelligently, and without doublespeak, than Trump ever could.
The problem here is there’s a sub-group of Trump supporters who will read this and think “yeah, someone should just take out Hunter Biden, that will send a real message”. And there’s a sub-group of that group that will possibly try to do it.
Trump is well aware, and possibly proud of, the fact that statements from him can lead to real world violence.
He was trying to get the metal detectors removed from the Jan 6 rally because “they’re not here to hurt me”. This indicates he knew people would try to come armed and that they intended to hurt someone, just not him.
Trump is well aware, and possibly proud of, the fact that statements from him can lead to real world violence.
There’s no “possibly”. He is proud of it, and he’s attempted to directly call for violence on multiple occasions since 1/6. Fortunately, it only actually worked the one time. But it did permanently force everybody to take his calls to violence seriously since he only needs one well-armed MAGA moron to do some serious damage, and his base has proven that there are plenty of people out there waiting for that call.
Can we not inflate his bullshit on this new site though? Like… This is just him saying whatever random stuff to stay in people’s minds. There’s no meaning behind it and there’s no action either. It’s just actual clogging up of more important politics and news.
That is why we have a down vote option which I highly recommend using for items such as this. The community controls what it wants to see.
He is recommending if you dont like the post downvote it. Also if you dont like it… dont open it.
This isn’t reddit where they inflated the upvotes. You all control if something gets pushed through to the lemmy servers homepage or not.
It isn’t exactly a matter of wanting or not wanting to see it. You know the addage “any news is good news?” By posting content that keeps a person and their commentary in the forefront of people’s minds, that person gains an audience. That audience will contain people who can be swayed by the snake oil, but who would otherwise be reasonable. Or in short, posting their content facilitates radicalization.
That said, while content from harmful influential people needs to be approached with caution, I don’t see this as promoting Trump’s action/behaviors. To me it reads more like a “not the onion” headline. I’d be disappointed if anyone felt that the death penalty was warranted for late tax filing, but I suppose it’s possible.
Does Lemmy have a way to filter keywords? It would be helpful for people to be able to blacklist keywords so a user could choose to avoid seeing, for example, news about Trump or content with sensitive topics.
Do you really think if a Lemmy instance or vanity fair banned anything about Trump it’d make him less influential? Maybe if there was a media wide blackout, but so long as Fox News exists and asshole oligarchs can buy all sorts of giant megaphones to push their messages, I think the rest of us only have a choice in whether we offer dissenting opinions or stay silent
We need that slashdot system of vote + mark “insightful”, “flamebait”, “funny”, etc etc. add more categories as necessary so posts can be scored on multiple axes.
Unfortunately, the guy is the leading contender for the Republican nomination for President. It’s important that people (especially independent voters) know about this crap before they consider voting for him.
No, that isn’t really true. He needs to be isolated like the mental plague that he is. He is memetic poison. “Let people decide” basically lets them get infected.
Vanity Fair is not news, pass
Media bias / fact check for Vanity Fair:
Overall, we rate Vanity Fair Left Biased based on editorial positions that always favor the left and are Mostly Factual in reporting, rather than High, due to a failed fact check.
So should Trump by that logic.
Ok. At this point he HAS to be doing this shit on purpose.
He says whatever he thinks will own the libs. He doesn’t have any actual platform, it is all about power for him and hurting those who hurt him.
Yep, he’s grasping at straws to stay relevant. If there’s one thing he knows, it’s how to manipulate the media. And right now the only way he can get their attention to post what he says, is if he says something truly outlandish and more “trumpy” than other political commentators from conservative outlets.
