cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1376783

Thought I’d never see the day when Firefox would match Chrome on Speedometer.

There’s also a few other benchmarks got a sizable boost. https://arewefastyet.com/

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Speed almost doesn’t matter for me, since Chrome allows ads and Firefox actually lets me use adblockers and privacy badger. The time wasted on ads are way larger than the time spent loading a page.

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never thought about it, but I tend to concur

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Yeah. A pihole sped up the internet for me big time.

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I’m a Firefox user, but doesn’t Chrome allow adblockers too? Both uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger are supported extensions on Chrome.

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They do, but Chrome is actively trying to remove support for most advanced ad-blocking capabilities. Further, Google has no financial incentive to make their browser hospitable to ad blockers as Google makes most of their money from advertising.

Google has pushed some half-baked ideas for how the web could work without having to block ads. Ad blocks aren’t best buddies with Google.

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Thanks for the response and info. Another day where I’m glad to be a FF user.

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Correct, but Chrome recently allowed ads through that weren’t block-able by uBlock Origin or any other blocker at the time. That’s when I switched back to Firefox, so I don’t know if anyone figured out a way around it.

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What do you mean? Adblockers for Chrome exists.

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Also note differences of these capabilities on their respective mobile apps.

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They do, but Google reduced their utility. Ads from YouTube get through my uBlock Origin, and I see ads in my search results. This was a fairly recent development, as maybe a year ago I didn’t see any ads at all on Chrome. The day I got ads punched through my blockers, is the day I quit being lazy and migrated back to Firefox.

Google has no incentive to block ads when that’s part of their revenue stream, so they nerfed third party extension’s ability to actually work at intended.

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Sure it does…

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I rarely feel like the slowness of a website was due to the browser. I mean .4 seconds or .5 seconds does it really matter? I’ve been using Firefox since it was Firebird and speed has never really been a complaint. People need to measure and quantify everything.

What appeals to me about Firefox is how customizable it is, and all the extensions.

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On old HW it does matter. I use X220 Thinkpad, it’s still fast using chrome, and slow using firefox. But since 115, it’s noticeably fast… so… it matter, for me.

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My bigger complaint is memory usage

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Same for me. Since I switched to Firebird/Firefox, no other browser has given me a reason to seriously consider switching.

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2 points

I’m still a little mad that they had to change it from Phoenix. Such a great and evocative name.

I miss Galeon a little too. Practically invented the tabbed browser.

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Firebird?

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Phoenix became Firebird which became Firefox.

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@dan1101 @garam Indeed. What is this need for speed?

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Since Firebird, eh? That means you are responsible for my beloved Mozilla suite being ditched for this upstart.

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57 points

People stop using chrome.its not good for you nor for the internet.

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6 points

What if I just… Spoof a Firefox user agent?? 😅

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17 points

That’ll work but why not install firefox?

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Firefox is great… and we must use it at all cost

#eh /jk, no forcing, but Firefox indeed great!

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I just need to give it another chance, I literally removed Firefox two weeks ago after a problem using video calls, buuut I’m always fing around with the audio setup so Firefox may not have been at fault. For real though I never knew there is a Wayland mode, I’m excited to try it

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4 points

And enjoy your ads?

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I switched to Chrome a few years back because Firefox kept deleting my bookmarks.

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Been using Firefox for over 15 years, including weird open source custom forks of it, and I’ve never run into that issue. I’ve got bookmarks kicking around that I imported into FF from IE on Windows XP.

Not saying it didn’t happen, but I’d hazard a guess that it was related to some bookmarks related addon you installed, or user error. Sorry you lost your bookmarks.

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54 points

Why is Chromium slower than Chrome?

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I wouldn’t be surprised if Google is keeping certain performance enhancements closed source so they can have a competive advantage over the competition that uses the Chromium source. They have been slowly making Android open source worse by not updating parts and moving things to closed source Google Play apps.

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37 points

So when Google removed don’t be evil, they really meant it. It shows more and more each day.

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They didn’t remove “don’t be evil”. It’s still there today: https://abc.xyz/investor/google-code-of-conduct/ (final paragraph)

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“Who put this ‘Don’t’ here? We’ll just get rid of that!”

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They’re just build flags or compiler versions being different, no need to be melodramatic.

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“We’re open source but not open source enough to your liking” is a VERY strange criteria for “evil” when most other commercial software companies are not open source at all.

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~~Wild guess: APM? ~~

Edit:
It seems that chromium here on these benchmarks is unoptimized and it depends on what flags where enabled during building time: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chromium-dev/c/6q3AyYacjOo/m/XKQMdW4fBgAJ

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9 points

The real question

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So, a larger number is better for this speed benchmark?

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Nice! Although I have been using Firefox for years and never felt there was an issue with speed. Always been reliable for me.

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Same here. And wasn’t some of that speed difference artificial? Didn’t Google serve their pages slower on FF on purpose for a while? “Do no evil” and all…

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Never heard of that before. It wouldn’t take much for me to believe it though. Anyone have a link?

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Normally I’d let you Google it, but given the topic

Link

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