cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1376783

Thought I’d never see the day when Firefox would match Chrome on Speedometer.

There’s also a few other benchmarks got a sizable boost. https://arewefastyet.com/

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Is this for both desktop and mobile versions? Sorry if that is a silly question.

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Probably desktop. Or desktop and android. Remember that iOS locked down the browser years ago and require any third parties to run on safari’s bones.

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Definitely not Android. Firefox is unfortunately quite a bit slower than Chrome based browsers. I still use it as I don’t really do much on my phone, but I hope they can optimize it further.

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I use Firefox on android (specifically fennec f droid) and i use it since ublock origin can be installed and my fennec is hardened too

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Chrome and Firefox are building iOS browsers that do not require the apple WebKit. Everyone, including apple, expect apple to drop that requirement soon to help avoid antitrust issues.

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expect apple to drop that requirement soon to help avoid antitrust issues.

I’m surprised it took this long.

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That’s quite good to hear, do you have any further reading that you know of?

Edit: here’s the top article from DDG - https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/07/mozilla_google_apple_webkit/

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This is specifically for the Windows version. You can also find Linux and Mac results here by selecting the OS from the drop-down list at the top.

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I only see Chromium and Chrome on the speedometer for Linux, not Firefox. Am I missing something?

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I think for now it’s on desktop Windows? But on Linux I do notice faster react app load like reddit new design is faster. But I use lemmy, so it doesn’t matter now.

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And that’s even considering the fact that Google deliberately throttles Firefox on their sites

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Is that relevant for the benchmarks?

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No

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Google.com on Firefox Android is an inferior experience compared to Chrome. You have to use an addon that changes your user-agent string to get the same experience.

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@lazycouchpotato @xthedeerlordx just use brave search or startpage instead?

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The graph totally threw me off, first I thought this post was a joke that Firefox got slower and is now as slow as Chrome.

For some dumb reason the y-axis shows the score, but it’s inverted…

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It’s inverted because on most occasions the y axis represents time, so less is better.

In order to not have bemchmarks where a lower result on the Y-axis is worse, they kind of invert it for scores.

I know it is confusing, but it helps non-technical people.

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Why is Chromium slower than Chrome?

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The real question

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~~Wild guess: APM? ~~

Edit:
It seems that chromium here on these benchmarks is unoptimized and it depends on what flags where enabled during building time: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/chromium-dev/c/6q3AyYacjOo/m/XKQMdW4fBgAJ

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I wouldn’t be surprised if Google is keeping certain performance enhancements closed source so they can have a competive advantage over the competition that uses the Chromium source. They have been slowly making Android open source worse by not updating parts and moving things to closed source Google Play apps.

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So when Google removed don’t be evil, they really meant it. It shows more and more each day.

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“Who put this ‘Don’t’ here? We’ll just get rid of that!”

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“We’re open source but not open source enough to your liking” is a VERY strange criteria for “evil” when most other commercial software companies are not open source at all.

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They didn’t remove “don’t be evil”. It’s still there today: https://abc.xyz/investor/google-code-of-conduct/ (final paragraph)

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They’re just build flags or compiler versions being different, no need to be melodramatic.

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So, a larger number is better for this speed benchmark?

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Crazy fact. Firefox, for me, has ALWAYS been much faster/stronger on YouTube than any chromium based browser I’ve used. Better than chrome on their own site. This makes it even better. I love this browser.

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YouTube has been ok for me in Firefox, but other Google apps, in particular Docs/Sheets, always become very laggy after a few minutes. When this happens, it seems to affect the rest of the browser too, so other tabs that I have open slow down as well.

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I’ve read somewhere that changing the user agent fixes your issue. It is intentional.

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Google intentionally gimps what they serve to their competition to make them look worse. It’s definitely an anticompetitive practice, and they’re walking a fine line about it to not get in legal trouble.

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Interesting. I have to try that. I remember reading that MS do the same for the web version of Outlook, but I don’t use that, so I can’t confirm.

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