This only makes sense when I realize that to conservatives, it’s an identity. They think it’s an identity that Taylor Swift should have because she’s (presumably) white, popular, rich, good looking, Midwestern, Christian, etc.

To them politics is not about ideas, or policies, or problem solving, or good governance. It’s all about identity.

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The real identity politics were the Conservatives we met along the way.

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I’ve heard this same thing said to me by Hitler humpers trying to recruit me based on what I look like, just because we’re blonde haired and blue eyed with fair skin does not make us want to be a part of their hateful bullshit.

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Anti racists come in all shapes, sizes, and colors. That’s kinda the fucking point actually.

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Abso-fucking-lutely.

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“But you would be part of the in-group! So why don’t you help us make the out-groups life miserable?!”

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Is there any tangible advantage to be in the ingroup? What’s that I have to give 10% of my income to the church? What’s that I have to donate money to a billionaire? What’s that I will literally die from treatable malidies?

Yayyyyy…

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Damn right.

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Well yeah, to them it’s a tribe instead of a moral failing

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Right, and so many don’t seem to understand the difference between principles and affiliation. It’s why when they respond to allegations about Trump being associated with Epstein by saying Bill Clinton was too, they’re dumbfounded when liberals say, okay, he should be investigated too.

Generally, liberals are more likely to relate to things based on principles (e.g., people shouldn’t have sex with children, so we should investigate any credible allegations regardless of who they’re about). Conservatives are more likely to relate to things based on affiliation (e.g., I reject the allegations about that guy having sex with children because he’s on my team, but the guy on your team should be investigated). That’s why Al Franken isn’t in office anymore, even though he was more guilty of an appearance of wrongdoing more than actual wrongdoing.

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I don’t know much about Taylor Swift, but I assume she is simply too smart to be conservative.

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That is exactly correct

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The problem is that plenty of smart people are conservative. Because conservatism is fundamentally a grift, and the smart ones use the dumb ones to get richer.

Swift just has enough empathy to realize she’s already rich.

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Yep. Important to separate social and fiscal conservatives. Those Gays for Trump and Blacks for Trump types are fiscal conservatives who hope that the social conservatives will consider them “one of the good ones”.

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That’s true.

The smart ones are just evil.

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It does seem true that many hyper wealthy people trend fiscally conservative, surprise surprise, to guard their own wealth.

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Well-off entertainers seem to swing a little more left. Not sure what the ratio is compared to other wealthy people, there absolutely are plenty of conservative entertainers. I think quite a few of them spent time being poor while trying to win the fame lottery, and of course SAG and other unions are big in the entertainment world.

Anyway, not a huge surprise Swift is left leaning. The ones that are a bigger shocker are people like Garth Brooks or especially some of Dale Earnhardt’s progressive views.

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Entertainment requires a lot of traveling and contact with lots of different people. That lends itself to leftwing viewpoints and thinking.

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This is true to an extent I think, however it’s different traveling and wanting to experience another culture vs business. If the people you surround yourself with are there to support you and reflect your viewpoint back at you (Ted Nugent being an extreme example) it’s more of an echo chamber than an education.

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