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I have railed against Apple’s intolerable control over users since the iPhone launched, and I still see no problem with saying your special category of bookmarks-as-programs can stick to Safari. You can keep “webview” as your own thing, guys. The problem was always that other browsers were forced to use that… instead of being other browsers.

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In its post, Apple argues that web apps are built “directly on WebKit” — the engine used by Safari — allowing web apps to “align with the security and privacy model for native apps on iOS.” With the change to iOS 17.4, websites added to the homescreen now act only as bookmarks that open a new tab in your browser

even if we play along with this bs argument, they could also have kept pwas enabled as long as a user is actually using webkit, and change the behaviour only if the web engine is changed. seems like a petty move to turn European iPhone users against pro-consumer laws. “the EU took our jobs webapps!”

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even though Android phones have offered web apps with different types of browsers for years.

Notice they didn’t say “and there are no incidences of spy software gaining access to their phones because of the lower security”

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If anything, it makes the iPhone safer. If only one website renderer is used, you only need to find a zero-day in that one renderer to potentially infect all iPhones. Now that other web engines are going to be permitted, attackers will have to contend with multiple web engines. And you as user can choose to use a smaller web engine like Gecko in order to decrease the likelihood of being successfully attacked.

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10 points

“Tell me you don’t understand web apps without telling me you don’t understand web apps”

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Tell me you don’t know what you’re talking about by initiating an ad homonym attack

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11 points

It’s a glorified website. I don’t see anyone being afraid of infecting their devices by simply visiting a url

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-14 points

You rely on the page generator to only generate pages.

The EU is requiring Apple to let potentially bad actors loose.

There is no way to prevent them from stealing your information or other back actions.

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25 points

And the enshittification continues.

But Apple makes overpriced ego boosting lifestyle products anyway, so anyone who thinks they need their crap deserves it.

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32 points

They want to be fined so badly.

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