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Can we keep Russian memes out of politics please? it’s such a load of bullshit, it contributes nothing to the discussion and memes have been pushing propaganda since the first trump election. I really wish we (lemm.ee, but really everyone) would defederate from hexbear, it’s such a cesspool

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Putin has infiltrated lemmy, and you think this is funny?

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memes have been pushing propaganda since the first trump election.

Really?

Oops. I am owned. : (

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took me a while to realize this was a bit lol

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Oh cool, this thread has more hexbear tankies to block ☺️

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That’s what I’m doing, I say normal things, wait, block them en masse.

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Bruh you’ve gotta use vague signals and let the think tanks work with journalists to manufacture consent first.

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😤

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Yeah, DeSantis should be good at this, sadly…

I’m way more worried about this Facist than trump.

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Desantis is lagging Trump by 40 points. That could obviously change between now and '24, but he doesn’t seem to have the juice for this.

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Trump talks bigly but is not very effective.

DeSantis is not charismatic at all but I think he would be effective at what he attempted to do.

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I used to be very certain about the “Desantis is the effective fascist we warned you about” thing but more and more his buffoonery comes out, and I don’t think he’ll be president. That said, he’s being pretty effective in Florida despite his buffoonery.

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He heard they had pudding

Edit: apparently I’m a Russian bot lmfao

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Can we keep Russian memes out of politics please? it’s such a load of bullshit, it contributes nothing to the discussion and memes have been pushing propaganda since the first trump election. I really wish we (lemm.ee, but really everyone) would defederate from hexbear, it’s such a cesspool

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Maube russia sjpuldnt br funny then, how about tjat finnyman???

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this has to be a bit

if it isnt, fresh pasta

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What’s wrong with Russian memes lmao

Are you scared of their memes?

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Can we keep Russian memes out of politics please?

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That’s Ron Desantis’s face imposed the famous painting “Saturn Devouring his Son”. The son has been replaced with pudding to reference the time Ron ate a cup of pudding with his fingers.

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Appreciate the description. Whats your take on why only hexbear users are replying to me?

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Yo for real tho what are you talkin about? Is this russian meme?

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Russian meme

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I know you won’t care, but to anyone else curious what I mean when I specified “Russian”

https://www.wired.com/story/russia-ira-propaganda-senate-report/

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Mmm humgwy!

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that’s probably a lot of sugar

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Did someone say

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Slightly misleading, he says that they should shoot at mexican cartels (which are now federally recognised as terrorist organisations) who are using planes and boats to smuggle drugs.

He’s still a price of shit who wants to eliminate rights though, but it’s always important to get the facts right.

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C’mon, let these people just read the headline and dont ruin everything with little bit of facts!

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price of shit=0=DeSantis…still correct…move on

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Huge budget surplus

That’s an indication of mismanagement because it just means they’re refusing to fund all the stuff they’re supposed to be doing.

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Wrong - it means too much tax has been collected and it should be returned to the people that earned it. I wish my state would have a surplus instead of massive deficits all the time but thats whet democrats do.

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Uhh uhh can’t tell if sarcasm, must refrain from replying…nyah…nyah…dang it.

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Not at all. The state has a budget surplus and has a very friendly business environment. Those are facts. Also, shooting drug smugglers is the right call. What part of this is the problem?

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Sending military into another country to kill people is starting an unprovoked war

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He is saying that he would use American military equipment and possibly send troops to kill people who look like drug smugglers on Mexican soil, which is an act of war.

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The two biggest things we could do to curb the cartels in Mexico there is absolutely no political appetite for.

First we need a real federal gun registry database to start drying up the influx of weapons. Almost every gun in Mexico came from the US, almost half of the trace requests come up blank because these forms are all filed on paper in a warehouse that they aren’t even allowed to index properly. The most nauseating thing is the gun Industry is in on it… don’t believe me? Look up (38 Super El Presidente model).

Second we need to legalize drugs. You can make it so it needs to be bought through a doctor and or psychiatrist, but make all that shit pennies on the dollar. Weed revenue might have dried up, but a significant portion of the rest of their revenue comes from harder drugs.

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Yeah THANK GOD that it’ll be someone who thinks the best way to increase stability is to go to war.

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Almost every gun in Mexico came from the US

Absolutely untrue, at least in the way that you most likely mean it. The cartels aren’t getting things like M16s and 50 Caliber Automatics by purchasing them in the US because those things aren’t for sale in the US. They do get a shit ton of Pistols and Semi-Automatic rifles by smuggling them in from the US though.

…almost half of the trace requests come up blank because these forms are all filed on paper in a warehouse that they aren’t even allowed to index properly.

Partially. According to BATFE trace data there are several things that will cause a trace request to come back “blank”.

Unable to Determine a Purchaser" refers to those firearms that were manufactured in/imported into the U.S. but ATF was unable to determine the first retail purchaser through the trace process. Common reasons ATF is unable to identify a purchaser:

Incomplete firearms identifying data on the trace request form
Incomplete or never received out‐of‐business federal firearms licensee records (upon discontinuance of business by a federal firearms licensee, the records shall be delivered within 30 days to ATF or other Attorney General stipulated location (Title 18 U.S.C. 923(g)(4))
Altered or obliterated firearm serial numbers
The firearm is considered to be too old to trace
Current federal firearms licensee records are incomplete or missing, or the federal firearms licensee was unresponsive to ATF’s request for trace information.

Which intersects with my first point in a non-obvious way. If a member of the Mexican Army leaves, especially if they desert, they often take their issued weapons with them and those weapons are often provided to the MM by the USM. Those weapons don’t have a “Retail Entry Point” to trace since they basically go from the US Manufacturer directly to the US Military and from there to the Mexican Military. They also sometimes flat out sell them.

To be clear, there is a problem with North - South firearms smuggling but its not quite how you stated it.

Second we need to legalize drugs.

God Yes. The failed “War on Drugs” by the United States has been an incredible source of misery all across the world. It needs to end NOW.

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You have a lot of good information that I am not going to debate about, but I wouldn’t say “Absolutely untrue” as I used the modifier “almost”. The majority of guns that are used in these killings do come across the border and are pistols and smaller caliber guns.

Do cartels have .50 caliber rifles and fully automatic, yes of course. But cartels aren’t arming their enforcers and hit man with those type of weapons. They are hard to conceal and expensive if you lose them, and at this point most teenagers would rather be a Zeta than a cop, so they have an infinite labor pool. The M16 is often worth more than the person holding it to them. They save those for their big intra-cartel war plays and to scare the government back into submission.

If all the Mexican government had to worry about were diverted military weapons there job would be significantly easier.

That’s not even getting to the discussion of how easy it is to drop an auto sear onto the back of a glock in minutes or pay someone in Mexico with a machine shop to do something similar with a lot of rifles.

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Upvote for you and have an excellent day my good person!

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