cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/2881638

The largest piracy community is hosted over at !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

lemmy.world has blocked it. It appears to have also blocked !piracy@lemmy.ml.

If this is a problem for you, I’d suggest migrating accounts using LASIM to an instance that doesn’t block it (such as lemm.ee).

edit:

An official announcement has been made:

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Well at least lemmy.world is starting to look more and more like shit. Can’t keep the servers up, keep defeding, absolute nonsense.

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The instance wasn’t defederated. Just the community blocked.

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Which doesn’t makes it less shitty.

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It does. Defederating basically blocks all their communities and users for everyone on your instance. It’s a far bigger deal than blocking a community

I still don’t agree with the decision, but it’s a matter of scale

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Reddit 2.0

Edit: I saw I got lot of downvotes and I realize my mistake: This is not Reddit 2.0 because not even reddit was stupid enough to block their r/piracy.

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Feels like home doesn’t it!?

ಠᴗಠ

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I don’t think you understand what “defeding” means.

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they are volunteers paying from their own wallets to keep this going. You aren’t entitled to anything on the fediverse. grow up.

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And the end product isn’t very good, regardless of effort.

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Your parents would agree

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This is not difficult to deal with, setup an account on another server and stop using lemmy.world

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Huh, isn’t this Spez strategy?

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5D chess in all its glory!

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No need to stop using LW. I’ve got three accounts on different instances plus kbin. Oh, and I fifth on if you count my nsfw login. Partitioning your online life is nbd, really. And the fediverse makes it easy.

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Why bother to have 5, an account on a single decent instance should be sufficient.

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Sopuli was my original instance from before I knew what the Fediverse was but however they have their server set federated community discovery has been broken from the beginning. World is my reddit migration account and I moderate a couple of communities there. I really like some of the communities on Beehaw, and they defederated pretty quickly from just about anyone with more than a few users, so I got an account there. Kbin didn’t seem to work as well cross-federation so…number 4. And I use a different handle for NSFW. It would be nice to have an app for aggregating usernames across instances, but I much of my browsing from desktop so it’s really nbd.

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Well, they can just open it on another instance. This is the beauty of Lemmy and the Fediverse.

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Yeah, but we are not expected to deal with this kind of shit too soon and out of nowhere.

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No need. Users can go to other instances and continue accessing it from there just fine.

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Situations like these are the strength of the fediverse. Move your account to an instance that shares your values or doesn’t care about stuff like this.

Maybe you shouldn’t even have had your account on the largest server to begin with?

Edit: Didn’t mean to ridicule any of you all. I based my comment on my experience when I signed up. At that time there were plenty of instances to pick from and getting approved at my instance of choice was very quick. My bad.

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Is there an automated way to move my account and all content to another instance?

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I think the answer is not yet, but unless you’re some kind of fediverse celebrity it shouldn’t be that burdensome, right?

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One benefit the Fediverse has over a centralized site is that, as long as you set the same display name and avatar, most people will recognize you after a migration. For example, I know a few fellow Lemmygrad guys who have alternate, identical Lemmy.ml accounts for posting on instances that block Lemmygrad, and you can’t even tell which account they’re using unless you visit their page.

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You can use lasim.

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No but I believe there is something on GitHub to help subscribe to the same communities once you create a new account.

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Maybe you shouldn’t even have had your account on the largest server to begin with?

Some of us made our accounts on lemmy.world within a week(?) of its creation when it was tiny (June 5 for me). Doesn’t stop it from belonging on mildly infuriating

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Maybe you shouldn’t even have had your account on the largest server to begin with?

Maybe I didn’t have my crystal ball nearby when I was creating my Lemmy account.

Maybe many users will have an account on the largest server, because by definition it’s the largest server, with the most users. 🙄

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I highly recommend opening a lurking account in one of the NSFW instances. They are probably some of the fastest, most progressive and best funded instances on Lemmy. You do not have to browse the NSFW content.

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Also, they don’t ask for your email! A friend told me that.

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I don’t think that makes sense if you’re worried about defederation. Porn instances are particularly at risk of being defederated from (and thus you potentially can’t interact with large communities).

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It’s so easy to change instances, and there are extensions and things to export/import your subscriptions, etc. Just head over to one ones that’s hosting the content, or check out others to see if they will keep federated with the pirate communities. Make the same username, and most won’t even know that you’re posting from a different instance. You can still see everything you did before, just also possibly some other stuff. You might also get beehaw and hexbear (for better or for worse is up to you)! I feel like I might hop instances a few more times before I settle.

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It’s so easy to change instances, and there are extensions and things to export/import your subscriptions, etc.

Hmmm

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Can you make a recommendation for a tool to migrate “subscriptions etc.”? I’m using Connect if that makes a difference.

Also, Lemmy.world has been very unreliable lately anyway. Does Lemmy.ee have a good reliability record?

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because by definition it’s the largest server, with the most users. 🙄

Which generally means it’ll be the slowest and most overloaded. With federated systems, it’s best to avoid large instances.

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It wasn’t the largest when some of us joined…

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There was 1000 people about when I signed up.

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I don’t remember where it was for me, but I do remember it being the hop-on point for me into Lemmy because it was already well populated, so I figured it meant “good”. Now that I understand lemmy better, I’ve realized I don’t need to patron it anymore - there are better instances for me. I suspect that this is a good thing that something is causing users to move. I’m sure .world is the face of fediverse, or at least lemmy, for many at this point and will continue to grow in user base. Maybe losing users on the back end will satisfy the DDOS attackers, and also lighten the load while .world’s admin get it figured out.

Maybe this is a natural process of the fediverse?

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It was the only server that was accepting when I joined. I still have applications at a few, but never got approved. Signed up on startrek.website yesterday. I was motivated by the ddos more than any thing else.

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Honestly, I just found this place first, and I don’t remember what I came here for. I didn’t make an account, then I did recently and now get approved. Lets goo. Options are great the advantage of the Fediverse is that you can always create a new server instance every time. Probably always changing your IP every time the server gets taken down and have none of the names associated with it are the same.

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What a snarky thing to say

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A strength and a weakness. The strength, as you say, is being able to move to a different instance. However, the weakness is that Lemmy (the software) requires each instance to keep a copy of every federated post for its users to interact with. This means they have to host (and be legally liable for) data that they can’t police beyond blocking the community / instance.

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This is basically what I did not that long ago.

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Maybe you shouldn’t even have had your account on the largest server to begin with?

To give credit where it’s due, when the big Reddit migration happened many instances could not handle the influx of migrating users. Some people might have only had .world as an option.

Situation still sucks tho. Hope upcoming Lemmy updates make moving accounts between instances easier.

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https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim is already a pretty easy option

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I made my account here while waiting for the instance I actually wanted to come online

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Situations like these are the strength of the fediverse. Move your account to an instance that shares your values or doesn’t care about stuff like this.

its not a bug, its a feature! the faceless admins get to tell you watch content you can get now, not a faceless corporations! its so good that all the instances are starting a war with each other over the content they host because it means we have the choice of who gets to decide what content we like to see!.

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I can sense the sarcasm of your post, yet the words you’ve written are actually true. This is exactly what decentralisation is all about. on some other websites you might lose access to the content entirely, on the fediverse you can just go there direct and still get all of the content, nobody can ever take that away from you except for the people who manage that content.

That’s literally the main selling point of this kind of setup. Nobody, faceless or otherwise, can stop you accessing any of the content.

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decentralize a centralized socialmedia format. amazing strategy.

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I went with lemmy world so i could catch the widest net in content. And up till now i agreed with the reasoning of the other defederating.s But it seems like it won’t take much to provoke more restrictions. Guess i will have to lurk in other shores.

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You are completely right, but account migration also needs to become available for situations like this.

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Not only that, it was a brand new account on a totally different Lemmy instance that demanded lemmy.world admins remove piracy related communities.

Honestly it seems like lemmy.world admins were trolled by some random throwaway account and took the bait.

EDIT: The post in question in case others haven’t seen it https://lemmy.world/post/3175920, a new account from lemm.ee makes their first & only post in lemmy.world demanding that they defederate & remove anything piracy related.

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Not even reddit admins were this stupid

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https://lemm.ee/post/4235833 yours got a bad gateway

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yours got a bad gateway

That’s just lemmy.world servers having their usual issues loading. Though it is kind of amusing, a lemmy.world user going to lemm.ee to view a lemmy.world post, federation is funny that way :P

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They should have asked them to change their rules instead. Sharing DL links can get the admin in trouble. LueLinks had to do away with it at one point too, and they were primo pirate site back in the day. I think reddit had r/piracy and other subs change their rules - the one that had links to mushroom spore sellers (forgot the name) had to stop sharing links to sellers that sold magic mushroom spores (not an illegal thing to do). It’s tough, but admin made guiding rules, and that breaks one of them. Plus, if it’s on their server, it could be admins head on the chopping block.

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Are you talking about a different community or instance? !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com does not allow direct links to content yet lemmy.world admins blocked it anyway.

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Lmao. What a shitshow

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And now the account that redirected all of lemmy.world has been banned from lemmy.world for ban evasion.

This whole thing is weird

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That user can sue if they don’t obey, in most jurisdictions. If it comes that far, it’s too late.

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Why would the user be able to sue? Unless they thought their work was being infringed (in which case why they wouldn’t send a dmca?) I don’t see what possible standing they’d have.

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True but it hosted in Germany. That country does not take it easy on piracy…

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Even the German specific Lemmy instances like https://feddit.de do not block the piracy discussion communities.

The piracy blocking stuff seems like something lemmy.world admins decided to do based on a troll from another instance demanding it.

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