All smartphones, including iPhones, must have replaceable batteries by 2027 in the EU::undefined

279 points

Thank fucking god for the EU, for fighting for global digital rights where nobody else does.

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85 points

According to republicans Europe is hell on Earth tho

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83 points

Anywhere that isn’t a fascist theocracy is hell on Earth to many republicans

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3 points

It’s funny how many of them unironically praise the Taliban. At least, it’s funny from my perspective looking in. I’m sure for a fellow citizen that’s a scary thought.

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1 point

I’m sure many places that are are still Hell because they aren’t majority white and not fascist enough.

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51 points

mostly cuz EU gives rights and protections to consumers, not corporations

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13 points

They’re still liberal and give a lot more to corporations than they do people.

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6 points

I understand. Unless you’re lining billionaire pockets and actively hurting the poor, Republicans are PISSED

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13 points

-for Republicans that is.

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8 points

Fine by me. Nice and cozy 🤗

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1 point

No wonder, while plenty right wing parties are on the rise here, too, overall people are at least somewhat less removed from actual reality.

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5 points

We have a fake economy. All investments, researching and efforts could be decided by state (we/public). Protecting society interests and not “investors” interests is an obligation

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0 points

Does this mean we could potentially order phones from there as US folks?

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4 points

Doubt Apple will have 2 different devices for each area.

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One sensible right doesn’t overweight the never-ending bullshit coming from them.

And imo this is not a sensible right. To change a battery in phones is easy even now. All you need is heat gun (hairdryer), new battery, phone tape (2$ ali) and 30 mins of your time…

Also watter resistance will take a hit… I wouldn’t sink my phone under watter with detachable back cover even if it had ip68 by producer. They don’t even cover it in reclamation now.

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Compare to how it used to be, removing the battery cover and replacing the battery on the fly. And water resistance with removable batteries has been and can be done. Stop with this nonsense.

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5 points

One sensible right doesn’t overweight the never-ending bullshit coming from them.

True. Between the private healthcare, abortion rights, school shootings…

Oh wait, you weren’t talking about the US?

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113 points

Apple in 2027: This is not a battery, it’s a…umm … Ultra High Density Low Current Super Capacitor.

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50 points

EU: Ok, then in addition to that UHDLCSC you also need a removable battery.

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22 points

Yay! Another dongle!

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9 points

And apple consumers will celebrate it.

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they’ll find a place to shove one of these

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It might actually force them to develop inductively powered devices or some similar magic

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2 points

Introducing the UHDLCSC portable charger (which it technically a battery you can attach via USB-C-iLightningSpec©)

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77 points

I came across this insane opinion piece the other day: https://www.laptopmag.com/features/mind-eurown-business-for-the-sake-of-the-iphone-apple-needs-to-fight-back

It’s so surreal, it feels satirical

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76 points

Say, “We at Apple, Think Different.” and refuse to be shepherded into the flock with the likes of the dirty android heathens. You can’t give in so easily. First, they’ll take your Lightning ports, then they’ll take your internal battery and IP68 rating, and before you know it, they’ll take your blue iMessage bubble too.

At that point, why even bother? You might as well throw a Qualcomm Snapdragon in the next iPhone and call it a day. Congratulations Apple, you have the best UI of any Android phone on the market.

What the actual fuck?

You swear this isn’t satire?

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22 points

and before you know it, they’ll take your blue iMessage bubble too

Nobody tell this guy what the EU’s Digital Markets Act means for Apple and iMessage…

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5 points

I haven’t heard of this. What does it mean?

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39 points

I love how higher IP rating is always the argument, it looks like everybody in this planet is doing daily deep diving and needs its smartphone to do that 😅

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38 points

Phones with IP67 or even IP68 exist with easily replaceable batteries.

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12 points

My Galaxy XCover 6Pro has a removable battery (and headphone jack) and is ip68 rated

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I have a Samsung Xcover (5, not 6) and this thing is such a breath of fresh air!

16:9 screen, audio jack, good USB-C, SD card, removable battery, physical shortcut button that’s programmable to anything, decent performance (some newer phone games like Genshin don’t run well, but emulated NDS games or Morrowind? Just fine!)

And this is SAMSUNG‽
Where’s the world going‽

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7 points

You’d think they’d figure out a way to have those high IP ratings and have removable batteries (they have afaik)

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17 points

Are you sure it isn’t satire? I prefer to believe it is.

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10 points

I sure hope it’s satire, but that pun!

“Mind EUROwn business?” chef’s kiss

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9 points

I… Couldn’t even make it through the whole article. Absolutely insane.

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7 points

Looking at this guy’s other articles, unfortunetly it does not feel as satire.

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6 points

Man, Tim Apple sounds pissed.

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it feels satirical

That’s because it is satire.

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67 points

All we need now is a headphone jack

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100 points

We need SD cards more. They removed them so they can charge you 300 $ to upgrade 128gb and to force you into shitty cloud service.

Again, just anti consumer bullshit spearheaded by Apple and gargled by Samsung.

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23 points

I have flashbacks to using external storage on Android. It was such a shit show of an API. That being said, external storage, to break away from cloud storage is the next needed thing. We need to own the data.

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28 points

When you design an OS to pretend there’s no such thing as a file, it ends up being bad at handling files.

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Again, just anti consumer bullshit spearheaded by Apple and gargled by Samsung.

Samsung was actually one of the later Android manufacturers to drop it is my recollection.

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-1 points

Yeh and fuck them

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0 points

Agreed

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9 points

Definitely. Never understood why some manufacturers removed jacks

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32 points

I personally prefer my bluetooth headphones, but it’s not like bluetooth and jacks can’t exist on the same device…

Plus, pairing bluetooth in a car can be annoying as fuck. Looking at you, Nissan

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Yeah I want a headphone jack, but the truth is that I can’t remember the last time I used mine. I have an old phone plugged into an old amp that I can play Spotify through, otherwise I use bt.

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3 points

Yeah, they could coexist. I’m partial to non-bluetooth, but only because they come in shapes that I find more comfortable, and I’ve yet to find bluetooth ones that don’t make my ears hurt

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10 points

Money from selling true wireless earbuds was too enticing. Even Fairphone made them and removed headphone jack and spat nonsense that it was a “point of failure.”

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1 point

The argument was saving space for other parts. That’s true in a way. But if things needed we should have this space. What’s next? Saving the space of the charger? /s

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-22 points

Headphone jacks are a 19th century invention, if having them restricts innovation then I am all for removing them.

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We can’t only consider innovation today, we also have to consider its ecological impact. Jack plugs and headphones are way more durable than Bluetooth equivalent. I have 16 yo jack headset that still works perfectly, I only had to change the cushions twice.

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5 points

So are speakers and batteries.

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4 points

Technically 20th century, if I’m not mistaken? I just don’t see how they would restrict innovation, I guess

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1 point

A “19th century” technology that objectively produces better sound quality and uses less energy. And I already have wired earbuds and headsets.

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1 point

Unless there’s an alternative, no it’s not restricting innovation.

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4 points

I’d be almost ready to say that we don’t need them any more if Bluetooth headphones were about 100x better and cheaper

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At the same time, wired earphones/headphones are already just as good with a lot less parts/complexity.

You don’t need batteries, radios, and chips for coding/decoding a signal coming out of a headphone jack. You can just plumb it straight into the speakers. No need to mess with controls and all of that, which would make them a lot cheaper.

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2 points

Don’t forget how new Bluetooth headphones require that you download an app to set up the headphone. So a whole new data harvesting broker forces itself right where an audiojack used to be.

Check on the AppStore’s the kind of personal data one has to handover to tune the headphones. Total fuckery!

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4 points

Bluetooth 5+ definitely made wired headphones obsolete for me.

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1 point

But now you have to charge two things rather than one. Some people would prefer not to have to do that.

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4 points

Still too much lag. I love my QC45s, but there’s still just enough lag to bother me

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1 point

Bluetooth headphones are solid now, as long as you have something that supports aptx HD and LL (HD for music, LL for movies/games). But yeah they’re not cheap.

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1 point

Can’t imagine that getting mandated unfortunately

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57 points

The fact that some of the gen Z crowd think it will be horrible have forgotten that it was much easier to carry 2 batteries and swap them out vs carrying a charger and cable with you everywhere. Pop in the new battery, power it on and carry on with you now full battery phone. Being tethered to a wall so you can have 10% from 20 minutes of charging is crazy.

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16 points

Don’t forget the option to carry a 30lb battery bank everywhere with you so you’re at least tethered to something marginally more movable than a wall.

Seriously though, I miss my phone+battery in one charger and the ability to restart with full battery at around 4pm.

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I know you are intentionally exaggerating a bit, but they do make pretty small portable chargers. I have an Anker PowerCore 5000, it has 1-2 full charges depending on your phone, and easily fits in a pocket

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Yeah, definitely joking. Mine is 24,000 mAh and weigh less than 1.5lb allegedly.

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I used to do this. I thought it was awesome but I was literally the only person I ever knew who did this. It was not a popular thing to do.

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4 points

Zero lemon had them so cheap that I had 4 extra batteries (they also had the extended batteries that would last forever but the cases were janky). I would keep one at work, one by the door to take with me and two at home if you include the one in my phone that I would swap out. I rarely charged my phone at all, just the batteries. I loved it.

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Most people did not do this nor needed to since the very beginning of cell phones

We literally do not need replaceable batteries in 2023

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Maybe, but you have to admit that battery live used to be longer (specially pre-smartphones), if your phone could comfortably last a couple of days there was less need to have portable power.

I fondly remember the convenience of having a flat, replaceable battery in my pocket even in the early Android days, and I’ve missed it ever since it went away.

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11 points

The main reason I’m thinking of upgrading my mid-range phone now is the battery is on its last legs.

In fairness it’s lasted 6 years, which is two years more than my Nexus 4 got. Pokemon Go eventually killed that.

I don’t know when we all just collectively accepted that batteries should last one day and not a second more. Sure, it’s doing more than a Nokia 3310 ever did, but sometimes you really do need it to last more than that, like when travelling.

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5 points

I’d much rather just have a bigger battery. Replacement is more useful for longevity for me.

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You’re not going to get a bigger battery though. Battery size is a pretty much maxed out, the only way to make a battery bigger would be to make the battery physically bigger. This would make the phone bigger / heavier. So it’s not going to happen.

If you are waiting on some magic new battery chemistry it’ll come along eventually but you’ll be waiting a while, and stubbornly not having a replaceable battery in the meantime isn’t going to make any difference.

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There’s some huge battery breakthroughs going on right now. You’re right though, I would give it another 5 or so before they’re widespread among phones.

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1 point

What is this sorcery? Wouldn’t this cause issues with internal clock and stuff?

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