Had a conversation with a vocal Christian.
Apparently, atheists are amoral degenerates because they don’t fear god or divine wrath or hell. Waxed ineloquently.
When he stopped to catch his breath; I asked if he thought i was amoral.
He didn’t catch the warning flares. Went on to more or less repeat all of what he said, adding in that this lack of fear is why they need to punish us.
So, i asked him what Christ’s last instructions were. He stared at me blankly. Had to think about that.
Finally he said “spread the gospel…” as if maybe it was a trap. (Hey, some of his survival instincts are still working…)
So, I asked if he really thought that he was doing a great job of that right now. He looked confused. So I asked him what the gospel was
“The news of christs sacrifice and his love for everyone…”
So, I asked him what divine wrath and judgment has to do with it. So he went on a massive diatribe again about god’s judgement and how if they didn’t were all fucked.
“It’s a good thing I don’t believe in your skydaddy, then. A fairy tale can’t fuck for shit. Oh. And can we talk about how the only reason you’re a good person is divine wrath?”
The fun part was he filed a complaint with HR. Apparently I was the one harassing him. (And apparently the Dumbass forgot that he worked for a contract security company. We have security cameras… everywhere, including in the waiting lobby’s coffee service where he had cornered me.)(he got told to shut up. And then quite because of PeRsEcUtIoN)
Yep. I had someone “explain” to me that the only reason I had morals was that I was a good god fearing Christian. Because they couldn’t fathom the idea that someone could treat others well and not want to harm anyone without fearing god. When I said I’m an atheist they absolutely refused to believe me. Like they walked away from the conversation convinced I am Christian solely because I’d never killed anyone.
It’s amazing how there’s usually two responses- either suddenly you’re a hedonistic mass murderer or your secretly a Christian.
I could do with a little hedonism….maybe
I mean, there’s more stopping me than just that. Like being surrounded by people who actually believe that crap would disgust me constantly.
Many many people that go through real seminaries come out atheists, but then need income so they become pastors. My wife went to seminary when she was questioning her religion and after learning about it was an atheist. She didn’t become a pastor tho.
That doofus who made the McDonald’s documentary was given a tv show for a bit. His idea was to have people who are opposites swap lives. The religious moron who swapped with an atheist kept saying that if you didn’t get your morality from the christian bible, where do you get it. The fucking guy couldn’t imagine people having an innate sense of right and wrong unless the church spoon-fed it to them.
They really don’t understand how terrifying that is to the rest of us. That their sense of right and wrong rests entirely on what their church says
This line of thought gets even more terrifying with the rise of churches endorsing further and further right ideals - we shouldn’t feed the hungry, we should persecute those secular organizations that do. The church shouldn’t help those dirty immigrants fleeing horrific living conditions, we should send them right back there since it’s “god’s will”.
Parotioners already don’t think for themselves, it’s trivial to shift the Overton Window on what being a “good christian” means from the original teachings of Jesus to the rants from orange Jesus.
People like that are genuinely scary, you wonder what they would be up to if it wasn’t for the bible.