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“I would estimate that the entire fediverse is developed off of the backs of maybe, at best, 100 engineers,” she said. “All of whom are either low paid, underpaid, or unpaid, who are trying to build software, and at the same time, are supporting the userbase of monthly active users in the range of 1.1 million to 7.4 million.”

Transcription-Kevin Durant meme, “LIKE 100 PEOPLE:”…“Y’ALL THE REAL MVPS”

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17 points

My respect goes to them

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I reported a server where the users harassed, both online and offline, a trans woman who later killed herself. Then they made memes about her death. Discords ‘safety team’ suggested I talk to the server admin (who was part of the abuse) and closed the ticket.

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64 points

They only understand when lawyers talk to them.

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39 points

That’s disgusting.

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29 points

It was a server for an irl streamer so I expected it to be toxic. I did not expect that level of toxicity. A bunch of untreated sociopaths.

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96 points

That sounds like Discord alright.

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67 points

discord tries to be a good company challenge (impossible) (deleted in 24h)

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If anyone is looking for an alternative to discord, please check out revolt.chat The interface and user experience is the closest I’ve seen to discord (miles better than any Matrix client), has functioning voice chat (being rebuilt for more stability) custom server roles, and a functioning youtube music bot called Remix. They’re doing awesome work over there!

Edit: Forgot to mention that it’s also open-source and self-hostable (although not federated)

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I think the problem with projects like that is they end up with stuff like this: https://i.imgur.com/PRX4haL.png where the only recommended client is one that is unmaintained.

Though I hope Revolt succeeds because Discord has way too big of a monopoly.

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Though I hope Revolt succeeds because Discord has way too big of a monopoly.

I don’t understand why everyone thought moving everything to discord was a good idea that wouldn’t backfire for a million reasons.

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5 points

By chance do you happen to use Revolt? If so, do you (or @Takeshidude@lemmy.world) know which client might be good to use?

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I have just started using it, but I’m planing to migrate my small Discord group over to Revolt.

If you go to their website revolt.chat it’ll offer a download for desktop or a link to the web app, but they’re basically the same. They’re working on an updated client called Frontend which you can get a beta of from GitHub.

I’m on an iPhone and I used the save to Home Screen function in Safari while in the web app to get an icon for it, and I think it works pretty well! It can even do push notifications, but some weird artifacts of using the web app on mobile mean you’ll only get notifications from mentions in a server or a direct message (or group message).

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well i use guilded the most

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I did try it, but it was missing video streaming last I checked. Also, they made self hosting without docker incredibly difficult.

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2 points

may I ask why you’d prefer setting things up manually without docker?

Imho, copy & pasting a provided docker-compose is much simpler.

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It’s mostly about having the ability and wanting to avoid any extra layers of abstraction. I think docker takes up more disk space than pure install but not 100% on that. Only app that I have w docker is Immich right now and would love to just uninstall docker entirely but … I can’t.

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New apps should be Docker compatible out of the box, change my mind.

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-1 points

An app that expects to be widely distributed and used but is Docker exclusive failed before even starting.

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5 points

why not matrix?

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8 points

I’ve got a Matrix server up and running and have tried a couple of different clients, but at the end of the day the Matrix UX isn’t really an alternative to Discord, rather an alternative to Facebook Messenger/WhatsApp or other group message platforms.

The main thing I would point to is that Matrix itself only does text; the Element client uses Jitsi to add in audio/video calls and screensharing, but at least right now, it’s the only Matrix client to integrate voice, video, or screenshare.

My other gripes are just with the user interface, but if you open any of the Matrix mobile apps and compare it to Facebook Messenger and to the Discord mobile app, and you’ll see it really doesn’t look like Discord. I wish I could quantify it better, but Matrix just doesn’t feel like Discord whereas Revolt does.

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The main thing I would point to is that Matrix itself only does text; the Element client uses Jitsi to add in audio/video calls and screensharing […]

Matrix VoIP is a thing, and it’s usable for audio & video on many clients, element and fluffychat come to mind, but probably more.

element call is also coming into element (and possibly other clients) for video calls and screensharing

My other gripes are just with the user interface, […] it really doesn’t look like Discord

why does that matter?

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5 points

installed userbase and the inertial resistance of individuals users (and even more so as a group)

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4 points

Not Similar to Discord

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2 points

No voice chatrooms so it’s not similar. The most similar open source solution I’ve seen is Mumble

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5 points

mumble

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2 points

Ventrilo? TeamSpeak?

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3 points

what’s the license?

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2 points

what the fuck was wrong with IRC

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16 points

No voice chat, mainly. I don’t want to play League and chat on IRC lol.

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About a dozen modern QoL features, like not having to host your own server to be able to receive messages on mobile clients

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yea

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2 points

Jumping from one proprietary system to another isn’t really an improvement.

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At least you have control over your data and you and your friends can blame you for server crashes lol.

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8 points

I didn’t realize it was possible to host your own backend locally… I thought it was just hosting the webUI locally.

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mumble

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1 point

Ventrillo and Teamspeak as well

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