57 points

Costly? They were pretty pathetic spam attempts that are still ongoing.

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Ingress and egress costs are real and those assholes attached images to their spam. Hundreds of posts coming in at 700kb a pop does damage if you’re relying on a cloud provider to store your shit. Then, it gets accessed by all your users.

Billing alarms go bing bing bing.

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Yeah, I’m running a Lemmy instance maybe we missed out on the bulk of it but it’s been pretty sad over here as far as being able to call it an attack.

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From the article they said smaller unattended instances were the primary target. So you might not have been one of the instances targeted, and if you don’t have open registration and/or have captcha on then it wouldn’t be an issue either.

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Do you have open registration? If not, you probably benefitted from other mods work on this one.

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9 points

Ingress is typically free, but yes

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I don’t get why the Fediverse decided to take on the legal risk and storage cost of downloading every attachment to local servers to be honest.

Privacy. Lemmy leaks your ip all over the internet. Mastodon does server fetch.

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38 points

I saw a few instances had large bills from their CDNs because some spammers uploaded many attachments. I don’t think this is from the current wave of spam about the Japanese discord server though

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67 points

discord tries to be a good company challenge (impossible) (deleted in 24h)

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Why would a company like discord even attempt to take action against coordinated attacks against anything they see as a threat? That’d only be shooting them in the foot because then people would have the most minute expectation of them doing anything good.

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Interesting side note: if discord was e2e encrypted, how should they take action on anything?

If a group decides to swat a server and they can’t review themselves, how should admin moderation work?

(Yes this isn’t the current situation, but I’m on the toilet and it intrigued me)

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Then they can’t, and I think that’s also the point. A tool shouldn’t be snitching on its users. If the act itself is illegal, then of course the perpetrators can be prosecuted

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Because some of these actions might qualify as criminal offenses and if Discord had knowledge about it or even supported it, they’d be complicit.

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There is also discord guilds for sharing cheats, which is very damaging to the massive fps games industry. If discord would be complicit why doesn’t valve or riot sue them?

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There is also discord guilds for sharing cheats, which is very damaging to the massive fps games industry

Using systems built into the game is damaging to the industry?

Or do you mean cracks/hacks? Because if it’s a cheat, that’s something the devs explicitly added.

And looking at Nintendo vs the R4, these companies do take down sites discussing/sharing hacks and cracks. Just not as publicly as you might expect it to happen because why would they, it’s just a lawyer sending a very formal letter asking for them to either take it down, or their company will be taken down in court.

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Ah, Japan, the country that lives in the future, if the future is the year 2000.

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22 points

I really hope this blows up in their face if true.

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If anyone is looking for an alternative to discord, please check out revolt.chat The interface and user experience is the closest I’ve seen to discord (miles better than any Matrix client), has functioning voice chat (being rebuilt for more stability) custom server roles, and a functioning youtube music bot called Remix. They’re doing awesome work over there!

Edit: Forgot to mention that it’s also open-source and self-hostable (although not federated)

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Jumping from one proprietary system to another isn’t really an improvement.

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mumble

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1 point

Ventrillo and Teamspeak as well

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At least you have control over your data and you and your friends can blame you for server crashes lol.

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I didn’t realize it was possible to host your own backend locally… I thought it was just hosting the webUI locally.

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what the fuck was wrong with IRC

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No voice chat, mainly. I don’t want to play League and chat on IRC lol.

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yea

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About a dozen modern QoL features, like not having to host your own server to be able to receive messages on mobile clients

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mumble

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2 points

Ventrilo? TeamSpeak?

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what’s the license?

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why not matrix?

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No voice chatrooms so it’s not similar. The most similar open source solution I’ve seen is Mumble

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I’ve got a Matrix server up and running and have tried a couple of different clients, but at the end of the day the Matrix UX isn’t really an alternative to Discord, rather an alternative to Facebook Messenger/WhatsApp or other group message platforms.

The main thing I would point to is that Matrix itself only does text; the Element client uses Jitsi to add in audio/video calls and screensharing, but at least right now, it’s the only Matrix client to integrate voice, video, or screenshare.

My other gripes are just with the user interface, but if you open any of the Matrix mobile apps and compare it to Facebook Messenger and to the Discord mobile app, and you’ll see it really doesn’t look like Discord. I wish I could quantify it better, but Matrix just doesn’t feel like Discord whereas Revolt does.

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The main thing I would point to is that Matrix itself only does text; the Element client uses Jitsi to add in audio/video calls and screensharing […]

Matrix VoIP is a thing, and it’s usable for audio & video on many clients, element and fluffychat come to mind, but probably more.

element call is also coming into element (and possibly other clients) for video calls and screensharing

My other gripes are just with the user interface, […] it really doesn’t look like Discord

why does that matter?

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4 points

Not Similar to Discord

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5 points

installed userbase and the inertial resistance of individuals users (and even more so as a group)

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22 points

I think the problem with projects like that is they end up with stuff like this: https://i.imgur.com/PRX4haL.png where the only recommended client is one that is unmaintained.

Though I hope Revolt succeeds because Discord has way too big of a monopoly.

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Though I hope Revolt succeeds because Discord has way too big of a monopoly.

I don’t understand why everyone thought moving everything to discord was a good idea that wouldn’t backfire for a million reasons.

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well i use guilded the most

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5 points

By chance do you happen to use Revolt? If so, do you (or @Takeshidude@lemmy.world) know which client might be good to use?

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I have just started using it, but I’m planing to migrate my small Discord group over to Revolt.

If you go to their website revolt.chat it’ll offer a download for desktop or a link to the web app, but they’re basically the same. They’re working on an updated client called Frontend which you can get a beta of from GitHub.

I’m on an iPhone and I used the save to Home Screen function in Safari while in the web app to get an icon for it, and I think it works pretty well! It can even do push notifications, but some weird artifacts of using the web app on mobile mean you’ll only get notifications from mentions in a server or a direct message (or group message).

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I did try it, but it was missing video streaming last I checked. Also, they made self hosting without docker incredibly difficult.

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New apps should be Docker compatible out of the box, change my mind.

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An app that expects to be widely distributed and used but is Docker exclusive failed before even starting.

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may I ask why you’d prefer setting things up manually without docker?

Imho, copy & pasting a provided docker-compose is much simpler.

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It’s mostly about having the ability and wanting to avoid any extra layers of abstraction. I think docker takes up more disk space than pure install but not 100% on that. Only app that I have w docker is Immich right now and would love to just uninstall docker entirely but … I can’t.

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://piped.video/_KCwq9e-H5M

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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