In case you didn’t know, you can’t train an AI on content generated by another AI because it causes distortion that reduces the quality of the output. It is also very difficult to filter out AI text from human text in a database. This phenomenon is known as AI collapse.

So if you were to start using AI to generate comments and posts on Reddit, their database would be less useful for training AI and therefore the company wouldn’t be able to sell it for that purpose.

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You raise an interesting bundt pan.

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I agree, it would take a significant amount of noodles to constipate the effort required to succumb.

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I don’t think is. As for as to is much more less.

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You wouldn’t need to make nonsense output. In fact, using output that is hard to distinguish from natural posts would be better as it would prevent poisoned posts from being spotted and removed.

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But you might be able to snake the noodle and creature nonsensical comments that others could still breed

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Y’all.

We want to poison REDDIT’S data, not Lemmy’s. Go over there!

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Replace all of your posts with “ceo of reddit, aka Spez, moderated the jailbait subreddit” ?

Maybe have an AI generated variations on that phrase.

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Agreee , it’s valid mkaye

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You can try something like what’s explained here, maybe? https://youtu.be/WO2X3oZEJOA

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://piped.video/WO2X3oZEJOA

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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Not exactly what I’m suggesting. Glitch tokens could just be filtered out when training AI which would render it useless. It needs to be hard to spot and look like a regular post, which can be accomplished by just having a LLM make comments.

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Redact. The free version replaces your posts and comments with gibberish.

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Reddit keeps your content, even if you delete or edit it. We saw this during the last protest where they reverted peoples comments back to their previous state.

The only exception is if you GDPR it.

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Yea, but what about when they permaban someone? Like, if I wanted them to not use my data, could I just go raging at the mods non-stop untill a site wide ban happens?

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They still have the data

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But then the normal old content will still be there

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It probably can’t hurt. Especially if you are litigious.

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We saw this during the last protest where they reverted peoples comments back to their previous state.

I remember that being a misunderstanding:

  1. As subs came back online, comments previously not visible came back too. In other words, comments on unavailable subs could not be deleted
  2. Rate limit on delete script
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So if you were to start using AI to generate comments and posts on Reddit, their database would be less useful for training AI and therefore the company wouldn’t be able to sell it for that purpose.

It feels like Reddit was already using bots to make posts after they killed 3rd party apps. It’s been pointed out a lot here how so many comment chains on the site these days make no sense unless they are AI/bots.

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Fr. Couple of months ago I went to check and all I saw were posts with a ton of upvotes and no comments or posts with a ton of upvotes and a thousand comments, not a single comment with anything of substance.

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Even before then, you’d always find comments in any larger section that were irrelevant praise posted by bots to generate a “realistic” Reddit account to sell later to marketing companies.

Hell I believe I once used a tool to value my Reddit account at like $200 and it literally told me how kind my responses were. Also to generate comment karma, responding to a post early is much more valuable than a good response.

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Oh I forgot about people selling accounts. Not only will they be training on a bunch of bot posts, they’ll be training on ad spam as well.

I never bothered deleting my account or deleting my posts. But I might consider selling my account.

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I don’t suppose you remember the tool? I’m curious about mine. lol

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I can’t remember the specific site and it may not be up anymore. I either found it by googling “Reddit account value” or words to that effect, or stumbled across the link in Reddit.

I do remember it worked a bit like redditmetis.com as it knew the age of the account and karma, but also use of kind Vs obscene language. I was also a mod of subreddit that just made everyone mods for the heck of it

I think I already type like generative AI too, which may be worth something nowadays. Honestly setting up a bit that uses a large language model to pump vaguely relevant top level comments out soon after posts are posted will probably net you more karma in a month than a decade using it sincerely, although for this reason, I presume old accounts are particularly valued now.

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It’s not just the content, it’s the ecosystem

If you’re training ai, you need a way to evaluate outputs. What better way than through karma score?

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“It’s fascinating yet concerning to see Reddit’s move to sell its content for training AI models. This feels like a plot twist in a ‘Black Mirror’ episode, making us wonder if we’re heading towards a ‘Brave New World’ or just caught in the ‘Net’ of progress. While the potential to enhance AI’s grasp of human banter is immense, it also opens a Pandora’s box of privacy and ethical issues. It’s a byte-sized dilemma in a world hungry for data, urging us for a transparent dialogue to ensure we don’t scroll past our own rights. Perhaps, in a twist of fate, it’s humanity’s destiny to carve a future where we coexist with, if not be guided by, the very machines we’ve created.”

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