Wtf is the reasoning here, just checked and it’s broken for me also.

113 points

Reasoning

They stated its for reducing spam and that jazz.

However, it has the hidden benefit of yet another reason to avoid rooting, which means less access to functional adblocking

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yet another reason to avoid rooting

we can all agree that literally nobody would give up their rooted phone if they’re forced to choose between root or RCS

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I don’t care how many services they break, I’m not giving up root access.

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4 points

How’s Google pay with root doing these days?

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Same. DriveDroid is the one thing that keeps me on root though. If I need something, I’ll see if I can bypass it.

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I would definitely root. But I do want to have access to my banking apps and GPay. Even though I do have a watch that can do all that

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You can have root as well as gpay and wallet. I have literally right now in Android 14.

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I did.

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Why

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You’re a fool.

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28 points

Wait what… How does that cut down on spam if it’s backed by sms?

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36 points

Shrug. Just repeating what the article said

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14 points

Booooo! It’s crazy that I can use gpay but not RCS

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56 points

Honestly how fucking dare they mess with communication like that, especially with no notice. I’ve been missing messages from my roommate and dad with no sign of anything being misconfigured. It’s one thing for things to be inadvertently broken from rooting, but doing it on purpose under the table is disgusting behavior

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Turns out I was missing messages also from my mom during a family emergency. I’ll probably be disabling RCS going forward

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Play Integrity Fix currently fixes this

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I have 15.8 installed but I’ll try 15.9 and report back

Edit: 15.9 does fix

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Yet one more reason to not use the hot garbage that is RCS

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I wish they would open it up to other apps

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RCS is walled off by design, so that users are dependent on Google and their phone carrier. If they wanted an open standard they would have adopted something like XMPP.

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No… RCS is a protocol (from GSMA) anyone can implement, Google just spearheaded it and developed Jibe to make it easy for operators to implement, but by doing this it means Google gained a lot of control of it and added their own features to such as end-to-end encryption.

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RCS is designed to be used with a phone number though. And fall back to SMS when unavailable. If XMPP was used.

If RCS was fully walled off, Apple would not be able to implement it like they said they would

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RIP but true, I only interact via matrix bridges but maybe I should setup a iMessage one to cover all bases lol

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I’m on LineageOS, rooted, and RCS is working for me. Is the block tied to the device safety attestation?

My device (somehow?) passes safety check, and I’ve had no problems with my banking app, Pay, or other annoying apps that insist you don’t own your own device.

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I lost RCS for most of yesterday on my rooted stock phone. After I realized what was going on I went into Magisk and saw that an update was available for Play Integrity Fix and that solved the issue. What I found most annoying wasn’t that it didn’t work, but that it broke in a way that seemed like it was working. Both myself and other people saw that we were connected/chatting via RCS and their messages sent just fine, but I didn’t receive them. Well, until I applied the update, then I got all of them.

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I’m not sure which level I pass, I can use everything but etrade right now.

Tap to pay using gpay and all my banking apps work

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You can use Simple Play Integrity Checker on IzzyOnDroid (fdroid repo) or the play store. It also checks safetynet.
If gpaywallet works that would indicate 2/3 play integrity if your android is recent I think, so it might be unrelated to the api. 3/3 isn’t enforceable yet afaik, too many legitimate devices can’t pass it.

Apps can still bring their own root checks, but magiskhide should allow you to pass those.
Unless the app is quite nasty and checks for the mere presence of apps that don’t do much without root or xposed, in which case there are also modules that allow you to limit what apps other apps can see being installed (really seeing installed apps should be a permission, but sadly it isn’t on most roms yet)

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You pass without Magisk? Curious if you’re on a Pixel as they can fail attestation if the bootloader is unlocked.

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No, I have Magisk which is probably what it is. I’m still used to the r/LineageOS rules where you’re not allowed to even mention the existence of Magisk. lol

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I haven’t rooted any phones or flashed roms in years. Please let me know why it’s so taboo to mention Magisk?

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4 points

What was their reason for not allowing it?

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Why not?

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Have you got Magisk or KSU?

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Magisk

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