So we better start trying to be diplomatic and peaceful with China right?
Right?
Am I ignorant? Like is China really just gonna start a war over Taiwan? It just feels like the a West is projecting.
I think China has red lines that could force them to start a war the same as happened with Russia and Ukraine. For example, if US starts putting missiles in Taiwan that can hit major cities in China, that would likely be one such red line. That said, China has no interest in starting a war because they know that the power balance is shifting in their favor in the long run.
China will reunify with Taiwan, that will probably require an invasion. Don’t make the same mistake many people made with respect to Ukraine. It could be decades away, but it will happen.
It’s fucking disgusting they’re even considering a nuclear war with China. Fascists are just evil
its also stupid. China’s nukes are much faster than US so their second strike could hit before US’s first strike if they are detected soon enough. also, China has nuclear weapon capability to deliver second and third strikes. Donfeng gang
Rebuild manufacturing and recreate the conditions that were favourable to the revolutionary left, or don’t rebuild manufacturing and lose to an inability to project violent power.
They have a decision between losing to the left internationally, or losing to the left nationally through revolution.
Or at least, that’s how the capitalists are interpreting it.
if domestic manufacturing is rebuilt, US will just go full fascist and start hunting down communists and supporting milquetoast labor unionists. not saying its impossible, but socialism has never come from the imperial core. imo US has to suffer a massive humiliation and multipolarity must dominate before the conditions are right (less labor aristocrats and generally lower standard of living)
I am not convinced the US has all the resources it needs to do domestic manufacturing and compete. The economics do not work out. The only people it will be selling its manufactured products to will be domestic citizens and in order to get them to buy them it will have to shut out cheaper foreign products by taxing them to the hilt or banning them.
For a war it will need to massively scale up ship building somehow. And planes. And bombs.
For all of these, it will need to massively scale up steel, parts, and electronics.
For all of these it will need to first create basic consumer industries.
To do all of this the standard of living for US citizens will have to completely collapse. If they go through with it, they will need something to blame that does not look like it was the plan all along.
thats true to an extent. if the US is intent on decoupling from China, some goods will start to be more economical to manufacture ourselves. for example, chemicals are generally similarly priced no matter where they are produced with the exception of China; China’s chemical industry represents so much of the global market share that every country relies on them for chemicals as industrial inputs and consumer products. buying these chemicals from another country (Japan, Germany, France) would be so much more expensive (if they even produce it) that the US would be better of making it themselves. of course, other countries could buy from China and resell to US companies, but the US would try to prevent this at all means bc it increases cost and defeats the purpose of decoupling.
i see where ur coming from, and it will def take a decade or longer to do this
the US will have to gut its service industries ofc, and ur right abt standard of living dropping, but the police and military likely have the capability to keep the “peace”
also i was just going along with ur hypothetical. i think the US is bluffing abt decoupling. imo the most likely thing is the US angrily falling from its hegemonic position, engaging in proxy wars, dancing around the idea of nuclear war, and supporting increased industrialization of Latin America, South/Southeast Asia, and Africa
What industrial base lol.
this is a factor, but there is a significant non-incarcerated manufacturing base in US. 8.5% of the workforce (15 million) is in manufacturing, 800,000 of these are imprisoned
