A woman who mailed then-President Trump a threatening letter that contained ricin weeks before the 2020 election was sentenced to 262 months in prison on Thursday, the Department of Justice announced.

116 points

Honestly, good.

You think trump’s fans are being bad now, bad back then. Just think of what would’ve happened if they got to Matyr him.

If he’s to die, it should be rotting in prison for the crimes he’s committed.

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If he dies of a heart attack or something before trial, his supporters will insufferably claim nothing was ever proven and will act like he’s some sort of conservative JFK and demand airports be named after him.

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Or they might deny his death outright and vote for him anyway

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If he dies and he wins the vote, who gets the presidency? Do we T.Jefferson it: 2nd place is the new winner? Am. History was too long ago for me.

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Or claim that he was poisoned by the deep state.

ETA: Fuck this lady. She makes everyone who isn’t a MAGA shithead look bad. I want her locked up.

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Why do we name airports in honor of people? Airports suck. We should name airports after bad people as punishment. “Yeah, it’s a great house but it’s in the flight path of Andy Dick International Airport.” “They lost my luggage at Cosby Field.” “I had a 6 hour layover at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.”

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Many people love airports. Especially aviators.

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28 points

If he died, there would’ve been a few shootings here and there but the movement would’ve died out rather quickly.

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8 points

Basically business as normal then.

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People say this a lot but honestly I don’t think he’d become a martyr if he died. I don’t condone assassination attempts obviously, but the key to a proper martyrdom is the people supporting you have to actually believe in what you stand for, and have to be loyal and dedicated. People who root for Trump don’t actually care about him or his policies, they just swallowed a bunch of propaganda, and are rooting more against the team they don’t like. We’ve already seen how quickly people drop Trump when he’s not their golden goose anymore. If he died, there’d be no point in following him if he isn’t spouting off buzzwords and dogwhistles constantly anymore. They’d just move on to the next guy who doesn’t like immigration or the gays. I mean, it’s not like anyone calls Hitler a martyr, or any other authoritarian dictators that have died in the past. A martyr has to be someone who inspires people beyond their death, and brings attention to a particular issue. Trump doesn’t inspire anyone, he’s just a convenient figurehead to rally behind.

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Very astute.

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3 points

Nah, they’re gonna be maximally awful no matter what.

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43 points

Good. This woman could have sickened not only her target, but anyone who came in contact with what she sent. While I share her politics, hate makes monsters of us all, and she crossed the line. While I don’t think the “there are good people on both sides” argument holds much water, actions like hers remind me that there are definitely bad people on both sides.

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Good men have to do bad things to make the world a better place.

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Every time I come upon that dynamic in real life, it’s always turned out to be the wrong decision. The ends may justify the means, but the means defines the ends.

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7 points

Tell that to the men who fought the Civil War and burnt down the south to free my ancestors.

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8 points

No, absolutely fucking no. The ends do not and cannot justify the means.

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1 point

Hate to do Godwins Law but the Allies brought death and destruction to destroy the reign of the Third Reich and I believe that we all know that was a good outcome.

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Killing a bunch of staffers with ricin in an envelope that would never have gotten to Trump is not making the world a better place.

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4 points

Funny, that’s exactly what they say

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2 points

Who watches the watchmen?

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Doing bad things to make the world a better place is an oxymoronic sentence.

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And just regular moronic.

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I hate to do the Godwins Law but the Allies have brought down death and destruction to the reign of the Third Reich. Sherman let loose the dogs of war on the South to bring freedom to the slaves. I believe we all know that they brought good outcomes.

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There definitely is good people, you might not have met them, you are extremely disposed to not meet them and that is OK, hang around with people you want to, learned that myself not too long ago. You may have likely talked or interacted friendly with a (former) supporter.

I myself am not much invested, people’s hate of trump is weird given he ultimately did not even do much, like most presidents, but for me it is just stuff that can be felt outside US I dunno did california implode or did he personally appoint and send the floyd cop out or something. US for sure does not have a big beautiful mexico wall.

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… he ultimately did not even do much …

He did a lot of things. Bad things.

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To be fair, I don’t actually believe there are good and bad people (we’re all a mix), and I agree with you that there are people who do good who are Trumpers (I’m a small town boy, so I grew up with a lot of them).

From a personal standpoint, the effect Trump had on California was significant and frightening, especially as a member of a mixed race family. It was real fun having to explain to my teenager why we were being followed by a Trump convoy on the freeway screaming the N word out the window. It fucking terrified both of us, as this had happened right after the bus got run off the road in Texas, and these guys clearly thought Trump had given the go ahead to go Mad Max on the libs.

From an economic standpoint, his immigration policies did real harm - my friends in the wine business had to leave grapes rotting on the vine because they were suddenly short workers (similar to what Florida is experiencing now). 70% + of international business on the west coast is with China, and he started a trade war that benefited no one, which really pissed off my techbro colleagues in e-commerce. The reason your taxes and mine went up this year is because of the package he passed while President, while permanently cutting taxes for the ultra-wealthy.

On top of that, the evil bastard put over 500,000 kids behind bars - many of whom are the extended family of my neighbors and co-workers, just trying to escape the cartel violence in Mexico.

So yes, there was a significant negative effect on California when Trump was elected. And while I can accept that people who support him are capable of good things, their support of him is definitely not one of them, and more than worthy of derision. Not murderous hate, however.

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You left out all the COVID deaths.

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people’s hate of trump is weird given he ultimately did not even do much

Here’s the thing, at the start of his presidency even i was like “In reality he can’t do as much as President as people think he can”

Then the insurrection and stolen documents happened. You really should’ve given up this stance by now if you ever truly believed in it.

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Bro, I’m sorry, but if you don’t think Trump did much then you might be fucking blind and deaf. He incited a fucking insurrection dude, he’s currently in court for multiple indictments.

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She deserves it, what a maroon!

Imagine thinking Donald Trump opens and reads his own mail! He has people who Cat-in-the-Hat those hard words for him.

Idiocy like that is too dangerous to be on the streets.

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Yeah seriously. I straight up think Trump deserves the death penalty, but doing this is psychopathy, nothing more. It will only kill some random mail handling clerk trying to scrape enough to feed their family, not anyone remotely involved with the fascism you claim to be against.

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36 points

Particularly relevant username.

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Good lookin’ out!

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It’s a dirty job but someone’s gotta do it.

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I always wondered why we don’t hear about assassination attempts more often. I bet the secret service et. al. have their work cut out for them on that front.

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If it was a successful attempt by agent 47 the headline would be like “antique lavish chandelier falls upon Trump in freak accident at fundraising event in Mar-A-Lago. No foul play suspected, say police”

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If it’s in russia, the headline would read “[Name] fell from window and is yet another random victim in the string of freak window-related fall deaths.”

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“We are saddened to hear about [Name] committing suicide by shooting himself twice in the back of the head with a silenced pistol and then throwing himself off a roof”

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If I’m playing it’s more like “String of Bizarre Accidents Leave 16 Dead at Mar-A-Lago, Including President”

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