224 points

“Make do” with ethernet? Charlie Brown, ethernet is the superior networking interface. People “make do” with wifi.

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56 points

I’m enjoying ethernet on my phone too

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I can tell that you’re being sarcastic. But if I’m playing ranked match on my phone, it’s always with an Ethernet dongle. Way more reliable and definitely lower latency.

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26 points

People actually play competitive games in their phone? I thought that was just marketing spin so apple didn’t have to put graphics cards in their macs

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9 points

It’s hilarious that you insist on the ethernet cable but not an actual computer.

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9 points

You don’t get cellular data? Okay, sure it’s faster for that too.

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4 points

Problem solved i guess, that’s progression.

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3 points

lol your comment made people salty for some reason

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It’s absolutely making do. Having to plug an Ethernet cable in every time you take your laptop to someone else’s office, break room or conference room simply doesn’t work. Offices aren’t designed for it.

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67 points

That’s when you make do with WiFi.

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You do know that laptops no longer even come with those Ethernet ports, right?

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Conference rooms, yes. Break rokms, yes. Offices? No. Use a docking station? Are you working solely from your laptop screen or do you dock and use monitors mouse and keyboard? Generally, there’s ethernet attached, too.

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5 points

Wireless sucks. Wired is always better.

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5 points

Wireless is always better than no connection at all if you need a connection and you’re not wired.

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5 points

Just gonna ignore those real-world examples and insist on fantasy land, eh?

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0 points

Can’t realistically plug your phone into the wall every time you want to use the internet

The whole point of a mobile phone is that it’s mobile

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Moan and groan all you like, it doesn’t change the fact that wireless is almost always an option and wired is almost never an option.

Even desktop PCs come with wifi adapters. Finding a laptop with an Ethernet port is damn near impossible.

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Conference rooms should have ethernet connected to the USB-C dongle that’s attached to the TV and the Jabra or whatever alternative you use.

Wouldn’t want to take my laptop to the break room, I go there to take a break from work, not continue it in a different setting.

I’ll agree on going to someone else’s office, or using your laptop in a meeting where someone else is connected up, but that’s where Wi-Fi works as the back-up.

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Lol! One Ethernet cable in a conference room? What if someone else is using it? Next you’ll proudly state that you carry an Ethernet switch everywhere you go. But, you be you.

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Yes, but tell that again when you and 19 other people bring your laptop to a conference room and try to login on the network at the same time.

Different things have different strengths, and losing one of those things means your experience will be subpar.

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So, I haven’t worked in IT in a couple decades, but back in the late '90s/ early '00s, all the conference tables at the companies I worked for, had Ethernet ports built into the table towards the center, and a switch mounted under the table so that everyone could just plug in. Did they stop making those tables once WiFi became ubiquitous?

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Yes, they stopped. The ports were never sufficient, people always wanted to move the table around, and the cables and connectors in the table were always breaking.

Besides, there are always people far from the table.

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4 points

What do they think their precious wifi routers plug into?

An actual cloud?

When it rains are they terrified of losing their data?

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And a lot of people do. Cellular and satellite internet is excellent for rural and certain business use cases. I have gigabit fiber, and I’m considering one of those in case the Internet goes out if fiber is hit or if we lose utility power (I have a battery backup system).

Yes. Those folks are scared when it rains too hard. The connection does become more unstable.

I still acknowledge that your point is valid for everyone else however.

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I was just making a cartoonish joke about clouds leaking.

Wasnt thinking rain fade lol.

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180 points

I guess they’ll have to cancel their building like they cancel everything else they do.

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99 points

They have to build it first and then use it for a few months and then demolish it

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36 points

First they have to kick out the people who were enjoying it

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That’s the most fun part! We know you have been enjoying your new office and benefits (because we read your email), but please note in two months we will be discontinuing a this. We are releasing a new service you might want to try though, Google unemployment!

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10 points

Didn’t forget renaming

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7 points

Nah, they’ll just add a chat app. Then destroy it.

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6 points

But unlike a lot of the other products they cancel, I’ll have actually known that this existed first.

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91 points

This is why Wi-Fi is annoying, I’ll take a wired connection over Wi-Fi any day.

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62 points

I’m just picturing you walking around a room on your phone with an Ethernet adapter and cable hanging out all over the place

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74 points

This is how phones used to work!!! The cable was all spirally and you could get really long ones!

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“Hold on, I need to move to the office on the other wing.” Cables everywhere.

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5 points

Those things were always a twisted mess hahaha

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10 points

Like we’ve gone full circle back to the corded-phone days.

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What? When? Are gen-Z using corded phones now or something?

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The moral is – Wi-fi intensity study should be part of modern architecture.

I’m all for 👍 architecture. Just consider Wi-fi before building it.

For this structure, I wonder if the best solution is – Just add more mesh points. Not elegant but what if there’s no better way?

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That was my interest in the story. Technology is so ingrained in our lives. It’s weird more furniture doesn’t have power chargers and other cords better designed into them. It’s weird our houses and electrical codes haven’t caught up.

But this is just a huge step back. Unless I’m unaware of lots of other new and old buildings with similar issues.

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No, please do not start adding electrical components to furniture en mass.

If you do, I give it 1, maybe 2 generations, until furniture is partially subsidized by tech companies and it becomes niche to NOT have a “smart couch”.

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Funny you mention the smart couch because that’s the type of furniture that seems to come with USB charging stations a lot nowadays. But I hope most smart home devices remain a niche for a while. The open source and crafting community around them is pretty amazing and I’d hate to see it getting literally sideshelved for smart home prefabs.

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In my country, from what I observed, not many study tables and work tables with power outlets. 1 may say, “Add usb-c sockets too.” But the future is hard to predict. Will there be usb-d? Will 150-watt charging be the norm for phones? The safe thing to do is just outlets. Power bricks for phones are cheap anyway.

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Agreed. My work desk is barely four years old, and already its integrated USB-A ports and Qi 1 charger are outdated and basically useless to me. I’d prefer not having them. The power outlet is still fine though.

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To support MU-MIMO / beamforming (multipath signals for multiple devices) they could also just add more flat surfaces inside the ceilings to make radio reflections/echoes less complex so that the signal processing doesn’t get overwhelmed when the source is some distance away.

Plain absorbing material removes interference but doesn’t let you use MIMO tech as effectively, because the newer higher end routers can use those reflections to boost the signal

https://www.analog.com/en/resources/analog-dialogue/articles/massive-mimo-and-beamforming-the-signal-processing-behind-the-5g-buzzwords.html

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I thought of interference too. If the Wi-fi was bouncing all over, there may be many areas with destructive interference – weak or no Wi-fi.

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I fucking love 👍🏻 architecture, gotta be one of my favorite genders

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2 points

The two genders: engineers and architects

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3 points

It’s a Google office building, they definitely considered Wi-Fi before building it but they made a mistake. Compared to that building in England that turned into a glass death ray I think this was a less obvious mistake.

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7 points

Obviously they didn’t do a Wi-fi intensity study.

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Oh they for sure fucked up, I just mean that it was likely a mistake as opposed to them not caring. Pretty crazy for a huge corporation to overlook it though.

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I’m pretty sure the problem is the shape and reflections. This type of design creates echoes from many directions which makes it harder to pick up the signal at a distance

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Googlers assigned to the building are making do with Ethernet cables,

If I’m working at a desk, then I’d definitely rather have a cable than rely on wireless, regardless of the roof structure.

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