Do you miss phones with replaceable batteries? By 2027, you won’t anymore because, by law, almost every smartphone will have them again.

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Guaranteed Apple will have code that says:

If phone > 2 years old:

Slow down phone

If battery changed:

Slow down phone

Etc

They’ll still make you buy a new phone. Don’t you worry about that.

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I mean fuck Apple and all but what they were doing with downclocking the CPU of phones with aging batteries was absolutely a good thing for users.

If they didn’t do that, the phones would have randomly shut off as the voltage dropped. Their misstep was not telling people about it.

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If they didn’t do that, the phones would have randomly shut off as the voltage dropped. Their misstep was not telling people about it.

Which if you have a replaceable battery it it’s not an issue

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Glad to see I’m not the only sane person on these threads.

Apples a corporation that only exists to generate profit, they definitely suck as much as every other corporation, but the ‘Apple slowed down phones to make people upgrade’ thing is so braindead that it hurts.

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Tbh, I don’t miss this.

Phone batteries generally last 3-4 years (sometimes longer depending on the size), and by that point it’s usually time to upgrade to a new phone anyway for the latest security updates and such.

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I kinda agree. Going back to back panels that fall off and batteries popping out isn’t a win in my book. However, making it so that batteries are replaceable by the consumer with some use of tools is a reasonable compromise.

On a side note I see that the Reddit etiquette of downvoting comments you disagree with is in full effect already.

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They don’t?

I’m pretty sure you can install iOS 16 on an iPhone 8, which came out in 2017, almost 6 years ago. And that’s a major system update. If you just need security updates, the latest one was in January and supported phones as far back as the iPhone 5s, released almost 10 years ago today.

But in reality, people want better phones and better cameras every few years, so they buy them. And they tend not to throw out their old ones, but sell/trade them or pass them along to someone else.

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Ah, but then they’d have to use an iPhone if they want to keep their device for 10 years, and everyone knows Apple is evil doesn’t let you use old phones. /s

Hilarious that that only phone OEM that meaningfully supports hardware past 5 years is the one that the goofy goobers here love to shit on for checks notes not letting them use older hardware.

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Hell, I have a laptop that’s over 10 years old. It isn’t officially supported on Windows 11, but I’m sure I could get it on there in some unsupported way, using Rufus or another tool that removes the TPM requirements and have it be usable and secure. It runs Windows 10 without complaints. I can run an up to date Linux distro on it and be completely up to date and secure. So, like you said, why can’t phones do the same?

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5 points

I have a ten year old iPad that i pretty much only use to watch TV in the shower. It just became incompatible with Hulu last week due to the iOS and I’m super frustrated by that. I can still use it for Netflix and paramount + but i was in the middle of several Hulu only series!

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3 points

π🐀.

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0 points

Not it’s not. You should read about throttling down

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53 points

Here’s a thought, what if phones weren’t made to be disposable?

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10 points

It’s not an original thought, but one that no-one has been able to realize. Turns out tech moves forward, and people want the latest and greatest.

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There’s nothing I do on my current phone that I couldn’t do on a phone ten years ago, technologically speaking. When I upgraded my phone recently, it was solely because of battery deterioration and because the previous model was out of service for security updates. I don’t think I’m alone here.

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Exactly, every phone doesn’t need to be replaced 3-4 years. Fairphone is doing a great thing with Fairphone 3 getting 7 years of updates.

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There’s abolutely no reason a smartphone couldn’t be designed to last +6 years. My laptop is 7 years old and it still works perfectly fine - even has the original battery in it. My PC on the other hand is almost 15 years old and still in use.

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Security/OS updates: 4 years on typical android at this point (fair phone claiming 7) 5 on an iPhone.

I did a battery replacement on my iPhone 7 at about the 3 year mark and got another 2 years out of it. Full updates from apple and 100% App Store app compatibility that whole time.

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iPhones get OS updates for ~6 years, security patches for longer. In 2021, apple updated a 9 year old phone with a security patch.

Apple is objectively the only way to go if you want a device that you’ll be able to use for >5 years.

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That’s been true, but I wouldn’t expect the year over year differences of phones to continue indefinitely.

Advances were very rapid when it was a nascent industry, but it’s already slowed down significantly. It will slow more by 2027.

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I absolutely loathe the EU and it’s institutions, but every once in a while a pro consumer standardization is a good coming out of them.

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Loathe is a strong word. Why? Honestly curious.

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Loathe is a strong word. Why? Honestly curious.

EU is a a wonderland for anybody who subscribes to liberalism and American led world order and hell for anybody else and prison for those who try to deviate form it even a little. EU never became a another pole in the world, it just became a American vassal management system and enemy of the actual living Europe. It empowers nameless bureaucrats and is fundamentally anti-democracy and pro-global oligarchy, and at best basically has made a vassal of every small to medium sized nation in EU to Germany and France, countries like Greece being at the bottom, in permanent debt and austerity hell. I could extend this list for days.

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So if I understand you correctly, based on your reply, it’s a liberal versus conservatism thing?

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They would just “underdevelop” other areas to make their phone “breakable” or “prone to accidents”. I am not that hyped because of that.

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* in Europe

Tim Cook can suck a fat one.

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He’d probably just enjoy it.

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Oftentimes EU device laws affect other markets because it’s easier to send the same device everywhere than to design and produce a separate one just for Europe.

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Yeah I don’t see Apple paying for wildly different phone designs for different markets. But I have no doubts they’ll find some new way to make their phones worthless after 2 or so years.

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Updates. That’s all you need to know. They’ve already be caught with the whole slow phone after updates to make you buy a new phone.

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