More BS for consumers who are now being treated even more like thieves when they shop

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A few years ago I remember a solution to problems like this. The store would hire a person and that person would ensure all items a customer had in their cart were scanned. That person would then also help in processing the payment for those items. In exchange for this service the person would collect a wage from the store.

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31 points

Brilliant! We could call it a… yob?

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31 points

I’m thinking a rob, because it robs the poor poor shareholders of profits

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“Organized retail crime across the entire industry is a serious issue, and has only gotten worse,” said spokesperson Catherine Thomas. She did not provide data to back up the claim.

Riiiight

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47 points

Is she talking about how Loblaws is essentially an organized crime outfit?

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8 points

The grocery cartel.

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26 points

Yes this statement was quite frankly hilarious. I’m certain that the mafia has moved onto stealing bread for black-market redistribution. Or maybe they themselves can no longer afford to shop at Lowblaws.

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11 points

You know times are tough when even the mafia isn’t recession proof.

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9 points

“You can trust us to know this,” she went on to say. “We’re the criminals, after all!”

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Nah, she’s being truthful. The retail stores have illegally collaborated in secret to raise prices to criminal levels, which is a serious issue.

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39 points

Customers who go through self-checkout must use the device to scan their receipt’s barcode — confirming that they paid something — which opens a metal gate, letting them leave.

How is that supposed to help at all in stopping theft? “Oh, you paid for something, you definitely aren’t leaving with anything you didn’t pay for.” I can’t see a way “organized crime” could possibly work around that. /s

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28 points

Its the DRM of shopping.
Impacts legit customers, does very little for everyone else.
After the media hype of a shoplifting crime spree hitting world wide, i imagine this is some businesses answer to that, and they managed to sell it to supermarkets

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Yeah, as much as I think this is a stupid idea I don’t think it’s as bad as Walmart trying to implement Costco style receipt checkers. The less human involvement the more I’m likely to screw up and miss scanning something. Definitely by accident obviously, I wouldn’t want to steal from a faceless corporation that only reluctantly employs anyone.

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Small caveat, but Walmart isn’t copying Costco. Sam’s Club has always done the receipt checking, too, and Walmart/Sam’s Club are owned by the same people. So in a way, they’re bringing their Sam’s Club behavior over into general Walmart. What makes this infuriating is not only being treated like a thief and having to go through more steps to get out of the fucking store, but I didn’t pay for any perks or sign any contract that allows you to search my shit.

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We don’t have Sam’s club in Canada so I was not aware, but regardless my point was a human looking at what’s in your cart and verifying your receipt vs. a machine checking that a receipt simply exists.

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38 points

During the pandemic they forgot to close the store for the entire long weekend and people could just walk in with no employees there at all.

During that time, people grabbed what they needed and left the money at an unattended register.

I’m cynical enough that I suspect these anti-theft measures are an attempt to get people thinking “there must be a lot of theft these days, so the high prices make sense. The government is responsible for crime, not Loblaws”.

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I’ve stopped shopping at Loblaw’s as they have make it increasingly clear that they don’t care at all about their customers. I used to actually be a big fan, they had good selection and their house bands were actually pretty good. But I’m tired of continuously being treated like a criminal as they continue to cut costs and raise prices. Their self-checkout stands must be the most user-hostile thing ever. I actually enjoy using self checkouts when they don’t suck. Have you used self-checkout at IKEA? Absolutely pleasurable. You just grab the scanner and go beep-beep-beep and you are done in like 3 seconds. But Loblaw’s is like beep, place item in bagging area, wait for the bagging scale to stabilize, beep, wait for scale, beep, out of space try to put something on the floor, YOU HAVE ANGERED THE SCALE!!! LOCKING WHOLE UNIT UNTIL ATTENDANT COMES!!!, a minute the attendant—who is clearly also tired of these hostile machines—unlocks it without even looking at the error or what you have “stolen”, then I can continue scanning hoping that I don’t anger it again. When I am done it asks how many bags I used, they don’t even have bags anymore. Then it asks if I want to make a charitable donation in their name, go away and donate yourself and I’ll donate on my own. Finally I can pay. And now I have the pleasure being locked in until I scan my receipt.

Also who is this stopping? If I want to steal something I’m not going to sticker-swap or try to sneak it on the scale. I’m just going to leave it in the bag and never scan it. What happens if I didn’t buy anything, am I going to be allowed out? Are they going to demand to pat me down? They don’t have the right to do that.

I’m tired of this shit, I’ve recently been shopping at Farm Boy and they have a nice human who quickly scans my stuff and I am on my way. It isn’t even any more expensive for most things. (though they do frequently lack bulk options which can result in a higher price.) I have the luxury of being able to pretty freely choose where I shop, and I appreciate that no everyone has that privilege, but I’ve started shopping mostly based on how they treat me. Loblaws and Canadian Tire can fuck right off, they treat me like a criminal. Shoppers and Amazon are bad, but not awful. IKEA and Farm Boy treat me like an actual human who’s time and experience is valued, so they get my money.

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14 points

I don’t know if it’s everywhere, but there’s a Decathlon store near me that has RFID on everything. When you get to the register, you just chuck everything in the box and it shows you what you need to pay. Take something out of the box, and it takes it out of your purchases.

10/10 self-checkout experience.

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Same thing at Uniqlo

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They can’t legally force you to show a receipt. From recent article on it.

it’s important for consumers to know receipt-checks are not enforceable by law and customers can decline and walk away, said Alex Colangelo, lawyer and business law professor at Humber College. Police officers have the power to arrest … but store security and loss-prevention officers are regular people. They have much more limited powers of arrest under the criminal code,” Colangelo said. “They can ask you to show your receipt and you can consensually allow them to do it. But there is no power or authority to detain you if you say no.”

Detaining someone who has not committed a crime can result in legal issues for retailers, Colangelo said, adding that a customer would “be able to sue for false imprisonment.”

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Yeah. Basically they can’t stop you from leaving the store unless they have strong evidence that you committed a crime. Not showing a receipt is not strong evidence. Probably string evidence would be they saw you pick something up and followed you to the door without paying.

Apparently one exception may be Costco because they make you sign an agreement before entering. But I don’t think this has ever been tried in court.

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Costco i could see being different because you have a membership, and rules that go with it.

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