How to turn a “must-play game” into trash no one wants in less than 24 hours. Good job. Makes me feel sorry for the poor devs who poured their hearts & souls into it only to have the suits fuck it up - again.
holy cow… no kidding! Hype was only building - and then to “reveal” the enshitification before it even enjoys release interest. wow.
What I’ve heard from people playing the game, is that those and everything else you could pay real money for is dirt cheap to buy and purchasable with the in game currency that you earn by playing the game and that you earn the in game currency quickly enough that you aren’t having to grind anything if you want to buy the stuff.
Then… Why have them real purchaseable at all, esp at launch?! Full price, single player game; makes absolutely no reasonable sense.
Games are supposed to be fun. Forcing paying customers to do something intentionally designed to be not fun before they can have fun is stupid. I know I’m in the minority, but I straight up won’t participate in that bullshit.
Yup, I’ll wait 4 years or whatever until it’s released as “Dragon’s dogma 2, darker arisen, game of the year edition” with all the dlc and microtransactions baked in on a steam sale or some such
I’m pretty mixed on this. I want to support niche games like this being made. I don’t want to support using Denuvo (even if it’ll be removed eventually) or bad MTX. Also, you’ll miss the online components on a cracked version, which is really cool in DS1 at least and I think even better in 2 from what I’ve heard.
its what japanese game companies do after a “golden era” when they come off on top. they make stupid business decisions that tank their goodwill they just earned.
its why when a japanese game company makes it big, it almost always is followed with becoming the villian immediately after
the sucess of monster hunter, resident evil remakes, and sf6 has gotten to their head.
Honestly, I might get shit for this and he was definitely an asshole, but Phil Fish was right. The Japanese game industry went through a shitty period for awhile years ago, got out of it, and then now (Capcom anyway) starts doing shit like this.
its just a pattern that keeps repeating.
Sony became very aggressive and anti consumer the moment the PS4 outsold the Xbox One after being behind the shadow of the 360 for most of its life. started paying for a lot of timed exclusives, exclusive game content (e.g COD, Hogwarts Legacy), block a lot of cross platform attempts.
Nintendo went very anti consumer after being very generous with the WiiU, and resurrecting the 3DS and releasing the sucessful, but very feature limited Switch. introduces paid online for an online service thats effectively at times, worse than the WiiU, decides to sell emulated titles either on limited time offer (Mario 3d collection) or required subscription to online, and take away browser and local save backups.
i could keep going on with a lot of sucessful japanese game companies, but its basically the same story every fucking time.
It sucks because I was looking forward to the game since I liked the first DD but after seeing all the micro transactions they added into a single player game I’m going to pass on it.
Plus, another game with trash “always online drm” and “your profile is stored on the server” idiocy
It seems your profile is stored locally from what I’ve seen, but some users are too stupid to know how to use Steam Cloud. Some users have said you can’t delete your save, but you can you just need to disable cloud backup on Steam first.
(I have no experience. I just read a lot of reviews in disappointment last night.)
Edit: Come on guys. Stop just downvoting stuff because you don’t like that it’s not as bad as it could be. Your save is stored locally, backed up on Steam Cloud. Prove me wrong if you want to downvote. That’s fine. If you’re just downvoting because you’d rather not know the reality of the situation, what’s wrong with you?
Apparently all the purchases you can buy are cheaply available in game with the in game currency, and there’s no real reason to pay real money for them unless you’re like some live streamer goob.
That’s not completely true, there is a limited number of port crystals until NG+ (around 5 or 6) and the adventurers camping kit is unobtainable otherwise (although you can get a better one from a side quest).
Ferrystones are also very rare, unlike DD1 where you get an unlimited one right away.
Capcom continually hamstringing themselves. With this and Street Fighter 6 having 100 dollar costume sets they can fuck all the way off. I expect RE9 to let you buy ammo for cash.
I mean, the RE4make let you buy weapon upgrades with cash, DMC 5 let you just buy all the currencies in game directly, I don’t even know where to begin with Monster Hunter World’s microtransactions. It’s shitty, but Capcom does this in literally all of their games now, so absolutely you’ll see dumb mtx in RE9 and Monster Hunter Rise.
That’s almost too harsh. The one positive thing you can say on the matter is that Capcom isn’t running around shuttering development of games to lay-off developers in order to manufacture like 3 points of profit. The Western AAA games industry is fucking disgusting in their greed, the Eastern AAA industry is just kinda confusing.
Except Konami, they can stay fucked forever.
i got made fun of when i said microtransactions were a slippery slope and this was gonna end up happening
The thing with microtransactions is that people actually buy it. And it makes gobs of money. We don’t deserve full games.
Whales buy it. For every 1,000 fans upset by this decision there is 1 fan who is rich enough that spending $1,000 on the game is nothing. A lot of these aggressive monetization schemes aren’t meant to make money on the average player.
It’s not that this monetization isn’t meant to target the average player specifically, it’s made to entice singular one-time purchases in a similar fashion to how places like Walmart work. Yes, they have the data that shows a few whales will make those transactions worth it, at the same time they are counting on catching the occasional non-whale slacking. Trick enough minnows into a net and you have the same mass as a whale.
I know this is a small difference in context, to a business it can mean millions of additional dollars. So remember: They know whales will pay. At the same time they are expecting to catch more than a few smaller fish in the process.
It’s up to us to prove them wrong where we can.
The sad part is, those preyed upon aren’t always necessarily well off enough to afford it.
It’s one of those situations where either the microtransactions are in fact small, so the low costs add up over time before the victims realize it, or they’re set up to pressure people into multiple rapid transactions, and so they either exploit some people’s poor impulse control or gambling addictions, or more often than not, both.
I was considering buying this but no longer. Game might be good but vote with your wallet to signal intolerance for greedy business practices.
Denuvo makes that pretty unlikely and people on steam are saying that characters are stored server side so I don’t know how that will affect piracy attempts even if denuvo is cracked.
Denuvo doesn’t make it impossible, it just makes it take longer, dependant on the interest of the crackers. The main need to be online comes from the initial Denuvo validation and for the ability to use others’ pawns. Being offline means you’ll just have to use generated pawns.
I don’t have the game but I assume “characters stored server side” means other people’s pawns like in the original where you could browse through people’s weird sidekicks and recruit them to your party. Not even Monster Hunter stores characters server side, it would be a weird shift to do it now.
Denuvo can be cracked in as early as week after release. It all just depends if people care about the game enough.
Yeah this whole thing may seem minor to some people but that’s what companies want you to feel. They’ll slowly slip in these greedy practices until it becomes the norm. Not long ago, Yakuza made New Game+ a paid DLC. What’s next? Paid save slots? Paid difficulty settings? I wouldn’t be surpised if that’s where we end up in a few years and we start posting “Remember when [X] was a standard feature in games?” memes.
Yeah this whole thing may seem minor to some people but that’s what companies want you to feel. They’ll slowly slip in these greedy practices until it becomes the norm.
This is why it’s so important to push back on this crap.
Don’t buy these kind of games, and never pre-order any game.
And don’t listen to the shills/astroturfers telling you otherwise.
Oh fuck them!
The more I read, the more shocked I am.
They put out a damage control statement today saying that you can find these items in game too. Sounds like they’re rare though.
That’s… a lot of DLC for a game that hasn’t been out for not even a day.
I know the answer is money, but these should really be part of the base game.
Adding this edit to the top because what the FUCK you only get one save file EVER? There’s no new game? And it costs $2 to change your character’s appearance ONE TIME? Words fail me
Rift crystals? Is there in-game currency for this single player game?
Edit: they have an arcade game style “insert a dollar to continue” option I’m dying
Get out of jail free for a dollar card? The more I read the worse it gets. I’m glad I saw this before sinking more time into the first game. Good to know it’s safe to skip.
One save file has been a thing since the first one. There is a new game plus and you can obviously delete your save and start again. The character edit things are in game and fairly common, already have a few without looking. RC are also earned extremely easily in game and the only purpose there beyond some cosmetic glasses is to add allies into your party that are high above your level. Its just another type of gold. I have no idea what you’re talking about with the “insert dollar to continue” thing. Also the jail keys are incredibly easy to get, you can buy them for like 3000g which is very cheap (early game starter weapons are triple that). All the mtx just seem like incredibly easy and quick to get shit for people who have more money than sense.
The teleport stones called “ferrystones” are 10k gold each which is a lot.
In Dragon’s Dogma 1 they give you a reusable one for free after feedback that they were too hard to find in the base game.
Looks like Capcom saw a quick buck instead this time around, with a map 4 times as big this is a much bigger issue than in the original and it seems to have been done on purpose to drive MTX sales.
This is also probably the real reason they’re taking a harder stance against mods. Within 24 hours, there’s already a mod on Nexus that adds one of the items you can buy with real money to an early vendor for like 1 coin.
There’s also another mod that just makes all items 1 coin, so it shouldn’t be too hard for modders to just completely circumvent the bullshit mtx.
10k is not a lot. Maybe in the first couple hours when you have zero need of them but by the time you need them you’ll have 100k+ in like half an hour easily. They are also given out often and easily found, I had 12 sitting in storage having bought none before I needed one. The amount of misinformation in this thread by people who never actually played this one or the first one is pathetically laughable. “DAE NEW POPULAR THING SUX IM COOL FOR NOT LIKING POPULAR THING”
Only thing actually rare are the fast travel items. Everything else on the list you can get within the first four hours of playing the game. The real dumb shit is the new game decision, the character creator demo gave you five save slots so why does the game only have one?!
