I love how the post I saw immediately before this was about Biden’s new Trump insult, ‘Broke Don’. So insult your rivals by calling them poor, definitely a good way to relate to struggling voters.
Yeah well Biden doesn’t really need to appeal to liberals and progressives when it comes to Trump. However making his idiotic base doubt him by calling me poor little bitch will definitely weaken Trump’s position.
For 8 years now his base has been firmly convinced that the mainstream establishment is an enemy of Trump and ‘the people’. From what I’ve seen any words against Trump coming from establishment liberals is more likely to entrench Trumps support than weaken it.
It’s pointing out that he is weak. Literally one of the main reasons people liked him was that he “couldn’t be bought” and he was going to “self fund his campaign”
Remember, before this they were just saying how scary Trump was. I think mocking him is far more effective
I keep seeing the press wheeling out example of “the rich” like somebody on £100k who can barely afford their mortgage, like it’s my fucking fault they can’t live within their means.
Do what the rest of us do, tighten our belts and deal with it. Don’t come to me with a sob story about your mortgage on a 4 bedroom detached Surrey house when there’s people who can barely afford rent to live in what was once somebody’s kitchen.
Middle class is not the same as the rich. Trying to get various groups of not rich people against each other has been a time tested tactic to keep everyone from acting against the rich. First it was race but now it’s trying to put the rural vs urban, the less fortunate vs the slightly less fortunate, union vs non union, etc.
Totally agree. Somebody who makes 100k aren’t the problem at all, its the people who make salaries with at least a couple of more zeros added to the end. The people that OP should be mad at aren’t ever struggling to pay a bill.
They won’t. The party exists to serve the rich.
There’s a reason they sidelined Sanders when he would have easily won in 2016
This has been on my mind every time the DNC tries to position themselves as a party for the people. As far as I’m concerned, they showed their hand, and apparently they thought no one would notice.
As I see it, he won the nomination. More people voted for him, and the super delegates fucked it all up. The party even admitted this back in 1982 that their intention is to prevent “outlier candidates” from securing a nomination. The Democratic Party is very undemocratic until we can toss superdelegates altogether. I say that, but it doesn’t appear to have worked for the Republican Party either, they just shrug and toss out all the votes regardless of who won in their caucuses. Look at Ron Paul in Iowa 2008, obviously won by a large enough percentage to eliminate the margin for error…but fuck it. Iowa’s Republican chair handed it over anyway and when the news was published he just “resigned” and the damage was already done.
That sentiment that it scares them though, has happened before to BOTH parties. 1890 had both parties on the run as we were embroiled in shooting battles against law enforcement due to working conditions and pay.
nah, they’re gonna make fun of Trump for being broke with childish nicknames instead. sink down to his level while making him sound more relatable to all the broke people they want to vote for them. sometimes i think they’re trying to lose.
Their campaign is literally “It’ll be worse under the other guy.”
Losing now is the best way for them to win in four years. It is how it has been for decades. When’s the last time one party held the presidency for two consecutive candidates? It’s a neverending metronome, except the needle moves more to the right each time.
When’s the last time one party held the presidency for two consecutive candidates?
Obama? Then immediately before that W? Then immediately before that Clinton?
In the last 50 years only Bush Sr and Trump have served single terms.
Dude we’re unprecedented territory and that is basically a gambler’s fallacy. There’s absolutely no reason to believe that the patterns of the past will continue. For example, Biden already disrupted the power of the Incumbent president and ousted Donald short of 2 terms, which itself is a rarity not seen since Carter.
“Worse than the other guy” is basically all that people can take at this point, and I think the best argument going into the election. It works because it’s one of the only arguments against valid criticisms of Biden. “Yes, he is old; but he is better than the other guy for x, y, and z.” Nothing wrong with this strategy.
I do agree that Democrats need to punch back harder, though.
I do agree that Democrats need to punch back harder, though
Specifically, they desperately need to punch Netanyahu in the face and cut off arms shipments, because polling shows that people in the US are pissed as hell that we are enabling genocide and Netanyahu repeatedly publicly humiliates Biden in a way that could not be a more obvious sign that Netanyahu is banking on Trump winning.
Assuming that we’ll have fair elections in 4 years if Trump wins may prove to be one of the worst mistakes this country’s voters have ever made.
When was the last time there was a fair election? Both parties conventions cram the most unpopular candidates down your throats, and always slowly sliding to the right.
2 term presidents: Obama 2009-2017, G.W. Bush 2001-2009, Clinton 1993-2009. so every president for 3 decades except Bush and Trump.
It’s not that they are just doing childish nicknames, they are making all sorts of statements every day about concrete goals, values, and things they want to fix or make better, it’s just that the only things you notice are things like the childish nicknames because… that’s the sort of thing that grabs people’s attention which is the reason they are trying out that tactic as well!
You yourself probably don’t slog through the boring articles, interviews, press statements, and so on, where they just present plans and ideas rather than headline grabbers. If you did, you wouldn’t paint such a simplistic picture, or wonder if it must be some conspiracy involving thousands of people to purposely lose.
they are making all sorts of statements every day about concrete goals, values, and things they want to fix or make better
We all saw how that worked out with BBB. No plan survives contact with the enemy friendly fire.
Don’t forget Biden negotiating down on his own campaign promise to fight for $50k forgiveness. And blocking the rail strike. And raising the defense budget. And forcing federal workers back to the office. And going around congress to deliver weapons to Israel.
But yeah they’re totally trying to make things better everybody.
Generally speaking, they do want to lose. If they actually ran on their universally popular policies, they’d win majorities large enough to where they wouldn’t have excuses to not enact their legislative mandate, which is at odds with what their corporate donors want.
This is a composition effect. Democratic candidates who run for safer, more left-wing constituencies feel free to propose more radical left-wing policies, especially if their main threats are other democrats during primaries. They then go on to win because they’re not running in competitive elections. You can use the same reasoning to conclude that Republicans who attack abortion and socialism do better in elections.
I don’t buy it. Red states hate billionaires even more than blue states. Centrist Democrats have nothing to offer to Republican voters to change their minds. Progressives speak directly to the economic issues that plague red states.
Red states hate billionaires even more than blue states
(citation needed)
I mean, red states elected a billionaire because he was a billionaire.
But Centrist Democrats think that if they just kick progressives harder, they’ll gain the favor of the three remaining moderate Republicans.
I think they hate the “generic billionaire”, but are they any actual billionaires they hate?
Bill Gates and George Soros are a pretty obvious examples.
The only notable counter-examples are rich celebrities that give them permission to be shitty, like Trump and Elon.
