Why did she have to specify the “white male” part?
I find it unnecessary. Race/gender/skin color or whatever shouldn’t matter.
Yet somehow it is true that the vast majority of smug people who are confidently wrong are white males. Maybe someday we can have equality in the ratio of being smug while confidently wrong.
You know how it goes, not all white males… but almost always it is a white male.
This guy probably wouldn’t have even considered insulting a speaker that way if she wasn’t a woman. In a scientific setting it’s one thing disagreeing with an argument, and attacking the person proposing the argument.
Because that’s the group most likely to commit misogyny in the workplace? Especially in male dominated fields.
What about them? Do you have a study to share? Or just making up straw men?
Yes and I don’t think you pointing out the truth of this stereotype is unwarranted here. But her pointing it out in the first place was. Replace this with another accurate stereotype about another race. Let’s say there’s a city in which a certain race, per capita, commits crimes more than another. Does that warrant someone saying, “So I got mugged, and of course it was a black guy!”
This type of stereotyping is clearly spiteful, ignores greater understanding about the social situation, and perpetuates the untrue idea most people conflate with these stereotypes: Every member of the race is like this. This is even internalized by members of the race in question, perpetuating the greater social issue itself.
What’s this got to do with his skin colour?
Or… is she just racist?
She’s just pointing out that because of his race, the man she was taking to was in a place of social privilege and he should be more mindful of this when talking to under-represented groups in his field, such as women and POC.
Reminding him that his race grants him a level of authority, encourages him not to approach every conversation with the assumption that he is the smartest in the room.
Honestly, I didn’t think it through. I saw this on Lemmy and thought “It looks like !confidently_incorrect@lemmy.world material and I haven’t seen content from it for some times.” So I crossposted it.
Being casually sexist in an anecdote about alleged sexism, ok.
By pointing out the gender (and race) of the other person even though it’s completely irrelevant.
It’s not irrelevant. It’s actually being intentionally framed as if his race is the reason for his undesirable qualities. That’s worse. It’s racism specifically for the sake of it. She’s propping herself up by putting down a race and a gender because she knows others with her same racism will get a kick out of it and upvote her bullshit meant to put her in the spotlight.
If the original sexist behaviour was typically done by women to other women just as often as by men, the gender of the perpetrator wouldn’t matter,.
Fact of the matter is that this kind of shutting women up and taking down to them is overwhelmingly done by men.
That’s true in the business world, academic world, etc.
Considering this, this is a key piece of information about the situation, not a sexist way to blame men.
I actually experienced this exact same scenario, where someone accused me of being an idiot on a topic and referenced me to educate myself on a paper that I myself wrote. Dude was a white male, but I am too.
Hilarious because when he threw that at me I told him to look at the author and he doubled down that I was wrong, and I didn’t understand the nuance of the paper I wrote.
Short of it is people can be condescending douches even without sexism.
I know how it sounds, but it happened and it was very much not “and everyone clapped”.
It was not in some big venue, there was no audience for the exchange.
There was no wittiness in some snappy comeback, it was a plain statement of looking at the author.
There was no satisfying element of him realizing he was wrong or spinning out somehow, just a continuation of his argument largely unabated. This was in spite of the fact that it wasn’t some big complex phenomenon, it was a very specific problem with a provably correct solution (mathematically speaking), but he had already decided there could be no solution so he wasn’t receptive.
Things happen, though it’s rare that things go down on such a publicly standing satisfying way as documented on these internet stories.
Then everyone clapped
Yeah for real, there’s been another very old tweet that this seems to be based on. Might be real but reads very copied from the previous one.
How did she manage to be racist and sexist at the same time? Interesting.
Yeah, she could’ve just said “a post doc”. Imagine if it was “a black woman” instead of “white male” and people would be going ballistic
