Telegram is giving away FREE Premium subscriptions! All they need from you is to use your cell phone as a relay to text out their OTP codes! And the recipient of the OTP sees your phone number! What could POSSIBLY go wrong with this deal?

PLEASE don’t use Telegram! I personally recommend Matrix as it’s totally FOSS, you can self host, there are tons of front end clients to choose from. Or even use Signal. I have my own issues with Signal, the fact they don’t allow third party clients, you can’t self-host, they have a proprietary shim in their stack that only they know what it does, they were pushing crypto, etc, but at least Signal is better than this garbage.

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What proprietary software does Signal have?

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What could POSSIBLY go wrong with this deal?

No jokes, I’d like to know. How is it different from sending sms to random numbers?

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The issue here is that you could potentially read the content of a 2FA sms that wasn’t intended for you. It makes it easy too break 2FA if you have many devices

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Logic suggests OTPs are locked to login sessions of corresponding users and also expire. Besides telegram would be able to tell if OTPs meant to be sent through you tend to not reach the recipients.

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Yes but you can login on an account and hope you will be the one selected to send the code

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… people just send SMS to random phone numbers?

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No but what exactly stops anyone from doing that? A privacy consideration? I’d think it’s just a waste of time at best.

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ok but, why don’t use telegram for this? scammers are everywhere but how is this telegram’s fault

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Ma dai what a logical fallacy laden answer. Idk which one cause I aint that sharp but you know well you’re trying to smudge the point

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what

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Eeeeh, how? He’s asking a valid question and making the valid assertion that it’s not telegram’s fault that some people try to scam you?

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I think this is a bit panicky… am I going to use it? Nah.

But also, my phone number has been leaked by plenty of entities… some random person getting a text from it wouldn’t even be that weird considering SMS spoofing. Someone could be using my number for a nasty spam attack right now and I wouldn’t know.

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People in the privacy community need to get over the unrealistic dream that regular people will adopt Matrix when we can’t even get them to use Signal. The only way Matrix will have mass adoption is through getting a lot of corporate clients. Then the workers might choose to use it personally too after being familiar with it.

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Sometimes even anything other than SMS kn the US because ppl just assume everyone have iPhones

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Far from the truth. Most of my U.S. friends own androids.

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My entire extended family only has iPhones and my wife and I are the only ones with android, gotten a lot of them on telegram to be able to have large group chats working well for everyone to have a good experience.

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Matrix still doesn’t have a multi account client with threads.

I don’t mind Matrix, but every time I bring this up to a hard core Matrix defender to how the clients are lacking, they don’t have much to counter.

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I’m writing a new Matrix client that’s focused specifically on being a Discord-like dead simple experience for professional people – it’s under GPLv3 and written in pure Dart

Probably will have the first actual release in one to two months – please tell me what you would like in terms of features so I can shove it into my already massive backlog

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Being able to support threading would be nice, a lot of clients don’t have that feature, spaces too would also be nice. Also the E2E encryption is a must since a lot of Matrix communication have it enabled by default.

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Would quick circle video messages be possible to implement on the matrix?

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A client that is basically a ripoff of Telegram would be ideal for me, for what it’s worth

Main features I like are replies, reactions to messages (also double tap to react with a default emoji), and that view where you can open a chain of replies like it’s its own conversation (I’m assuming this is what is meant by “threading”/“threads”)

Lastly, maybe the uncompressed and compressed photo/video options if that’s not already a thing

If it had the above I would probably like Discord style too

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Gajim, Dino, Conversations support multi-account clients. Threading doesn’t tend to work the same way tho.

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Threading doesn’t tend to work the same way tho.

Indeed

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