you need to go back to reddit, people like you are exactly why it became so shit
lmao that was my first thought, this comment section should be very interesting
Given that they defederated from Lemmy.world (at least Hexbear did, idk about lemmygrad), probably not
Do you really believe that is what happened? That tanks were used to kill protesters?
There are actual images of that happening. It’s genuinely an undisputable event.
Not denying it happened, but I couldn’t find any images of such. Although it won’t do much to change the minds of some people, linking or embedding the actual image would make your statement much stronger :)
.ml readers interpretation: Tanks (fighting for democracy) brutally killed students
So the west is still hunting communists to this day? Easier than fixing climate or providing healthcare I guess.
Predictable “West bad” comment when criticizing a massacre committed by the CCP
Care to explain what was communist in the event except the name of the party that enacted the massacre and maybe some of the people who died?
I wonder why an event that happened almost before I was born is so important to some people here. Why aren’t we showcasing how monstrous Hitler was burning people for racism then? That’s far more fitting to the situation of most western countries that are all leaning on fascism and racism. Some western countries like France are not far from crushing protestors with tanks btw.
But I guess the cold war world of 40 years ago is more comfortable. There was this nice black and white taint where capitalists were the good guys against evil communists. And we must now bring back all the sins of China and USSR to never forget what they did, so can be blind to what’s happening now I guess.
People throwing “tankies” everywhere are worth no more than any Russian troll honestly.
You didn’t answer my question.
To answer yours, maybe it’s because Germany has literal museums dedicated to education about the horrors of its past while China tries to hide them and has that same party in power. That’s slightly different.
Also don’t fool yourself. The Cold War was capitalists against capitalists that called themselves communists. Real communism never existed for more than a week in any country in the world.
Ah yes the one demonstration to push a government to the left and organize labor that tankies don’t like acknowledging
No, there was another one, interestingly at the exact same time, in Poland. They don’t like that one either.
The Solidarity movement, started in 1980 as a series of labor strikes, formed into a large trade union and then a political movement demanding workers’ rights, actual worker control over means of production, and similar socialist policies. It finally forced and won a public election in 1989 (on the very same day of the Tiananmen square crackdown) which in turn led to the end of communist (and Russian) rule in Poland.
But who hasn’t killed their citizens in a simple misunderstanding? Or, if that doesn’t work, America Also Bad! \s
I mean, China fucking sucks and is a shit authoritarian statist government but let’s not pretend America hasn’t done similar things.
Ever heard the stories of how America won the right to unions?
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Columbine Mine Massacre
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Ludlow Massacre
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Thibodaux Massacre
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Battle of Blair Mountain
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Herrin Massacre
Hundreds of people killed in total because they were protesting.
The difference in outcome is that back then the technology was more of a level playing field.
Can always rely on there being at least one person … “but the USA did XYZ.” Doesn’t change what happened in 1989.
No it doesn’t. But the same people who whine and cry about people using whataboutism in favor of China do the EXACT same thing in favor of the US.
They are both shit. Everyone is tired of each side pretending that only one side is shit.
Those things? Also bad.
Incredible that two things can simultaneously be shit, but it’s true.
Weird how I only ever hear one of those events used to dismiss an entire system of economic organization though
Well, the citizens they killed were literally firing on them and killed around 150 soldiers. Meanwhile the military for the most part did not have guns. Not saying it is justified even then to use military force on striking workers, but a hell of a lot more justified than western media claims. Oh yeah, and literally no college students died that day, as well as nobody within a mile of Tianenmen Square.
