Don’t let this discourage you from seeking help. Money isn’t anything, and this is definitely not the way these things always resolve themselves.
How did this get so many people agreeing with it? 911 is emergency services, it is not a hotline to the police.
I didn’t know that. Where I live, there are different hotlines for police, firefighters and so on. The US has one emergency hotline for everything?
I was a practicing psychologist.
I left the field precisely because I became disillusioned with the entire system of “help” for people without significant monetary means being to provide brief coping strategy trainings because their therapy allotment is extremely limited, toss some pills at them, and throw them right back at their problems that are MOST OFTEN either caused by or exacerbated by long-term economic struggles.
Our gallows joke of a mental health system in the US is designed to get the poor that need help right back to producing value for the class of people that get unlimited mental health assistance and intentionally leave the poor struggling in subsistence to live large, right back to what drove them to the ledge, often with a fresh debt load burden to add to their existing burdens as this post points out for the crime of breaking down and begging “please, somebody fucking help me!” in one form or another.
I am literally still traumatized from the profound lack of help I was permitted to provide these people.
I truly don’t mean to offend, but your pretty words don’t reflect the reality the poor and working poor contend with at all, and I can tell you from years of trying to be the change for them with few to no significant resources to offer that many of them correctly find it patronizing.
Also mental health practitioner here. The confused looks my family gives when they ask how to solve the mental health crisis. And I say worker’s rights, better pay, affordable housing, single payer health care, measures against online radicalization, etc
Why would someone call 911 if they are feeling suicidal?
I don’t know, why would anyone anything?
If you’re suicidal you might not be thinking clearly, and emergency numbers are associated with help from a young age, and if you feel like you’re in a real emergency and you need help…
988 is the national suicide hotline in the USA.
Two ways of looking at this. Either you are smart, and you saved your own life for just $2000.
Or, you’re an idiot for not calling one the free helplines to see if they could chill you out first.
Either way, I would have retained my dignity, and not posted it on social media just to bash the health system. That’s actually fucked up.
Yet, you have forfeited your dignity by posting support for that same health system on social media. 👀
I don’t know how you bend your brain to interpret what I wrote as support for the US health system, because it’s obviously no such thing .
But even if it was, I don’t think it’s undignified to quite same extent as posting about a personal health crisis for twitter clout .
Edit: lol How many accounts are you running ?
God forbid someone struggling with their mental health, who obviously has no support system, posts online about their shitty experience in the hopes of receiving any form of emotional support. Must be looking for clout
The fuck is wrong with you?
They don’t need multiple accounts. We all think you suck
Have you considered that someone on the brink of ending their own life might not be thinking clearly nor care much about their future financial situation?
Yes. Luckily they care about it again now it seems.
More than the fact their life was saved.
If you’ve just been brought back from the brink of ending your life, is your first thought going be “my goodness that cost 2 grand our health system is fucked”.
Cos I wouldn’t. I’d be thinking “holy fuck that was close, if I hadn’t called I could be dead now”
Wow, didn’t see this comment earlier. Truly spoken like someone who has never tried to take their own life.
Note: I am choosing to respond here despite ending our previous conversation for the sake of others who might be reading.
Surviving a suicide attempt or severe suicidal ideation doesn’t give you some newfound sense of appreciation for life. That’s TV fairytale bullshit.
The same problems that drove you to feeling suicidal are still there, now with new ones on top (like, you know, an extra $2k of debt). You’re not better. You’re just not dead. And most of the time you still wish you were
That’s way too much, but they called for immediate, emergency service, with many many professionals involved. Essentially rush, expedited service.
Then, by evidence of not needing to stay the night, they didn’t use that service.
They effectively booked a first class ticket on the next flight out of town, then didn’t go to the airport.
This is not a defense of the American healthcare system, it sucks. But they used the system that’s there, and shouldn’t be surprised. They are certainly right to be upset.
Edit I know folks don’t like this, but nothing I’ve said is incorrect. I also made clear I don’t support the current system.
Why is Lemmy so bad at acknowledging reality? Are the downvotes making you feel better?
Please tell me what a person experiencing a suicidal crisis is supposed to do other than call 911. Sane countries don’t charge people for emergency services. The US is not a sane country.
You’re saying it in a douchey way, but you’re right: There are other places to contact if you need to help, including the suicide hotline which is 988.
However, sometimes people need that sort of help and it shouldn’t cost them $2500. People are definitely dying because they don’t want to pay for an ambulance ride.
However, sometimes people need that sort of help
I mean calling 911 means you’re probably going to get a police officer who’s just as likely to shoot you as help you. And what is an ambulance going to do? They’re not nearly as trained in mental health episodes . And hospitals for my experience generally treat mental health episodes like it’s still the 50s. Without much consideration for the mentally ill basically. Getting charged that much is absolutely a failure of the system. But they weren’t even using the right system in the first place.
Calling the suicide hotline which is free would have been a lot more practical then tryna get emergency room doctors to help you.
A good tip, many counties have what’s called a mobile crisis unit. It’s like an ambulance of mental health workers that come to your home and don’t take you anywhere. Usually calling 988 you can ask them to help you find yours if you can’t find it.
Great, telling people to commit a suicide murder. What a fucking hero you are.
Anyone that’s a billionaire or leads a top 500 company are 99% waste of space and don’t deserve to share our air
I think you’re getting downvoted because if you look again, they only said to “consider” it.
Or maybe people are that upset with health insurance CEOs.
Cory doctorow wrote a short story about this called “radicalized” https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=F00D7584E6296CD7718FC3D359040FD6
Doctorow
It would be an absolute tragedy if someone in his family isn’t a pain management doctor/anesthesiologist.
Doctorow makes me hope for Doctorouchie and DoctorAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, as the medical trifecta of pain levels
