A 63-hour-long marathon of GPS jamming attacks disrupted global satellite navigation systems for hundreds of aircraft flying through the Baltic region – and Russia is thought to be responsible

Russia is suspected of launching a record-breaking 63-hour-long attack on GPS signals in the Baltic region. The incident, which affected hundreds of passenger jets earlier this month, occurred amid rising tensions between Russia and the NATO military alliance more than two years since the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

“We have seen an increase in GPS jamming since the start of Russia’s war against Ukraine, and allies have publicly warned that Russia has been behind GPS jamming affecting aviation and shipping,” a NATO official told New Scientist. “Russia has a track record of jamming GPS signals and has a range of capabilities for electronic warfare.”

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Russia is really stretching this out, aren’t they. Maybe they need some proper ass kicking to fall back in line.

At some point the west has to react.

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Never mind Russia, I’d be happy with anyone making a “special military operation” on Putin’s whereabouts. NATO doesn’t have to fight Russia. They only need the head of the snake.

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don’t think that this will work. Russia is rotten to the core and there is always another head.

we are fighting a hydra not a snake.

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Anyway, we should start at the top and work downwards. It’s a waste of ammo to kill all the involuntary cannon fodder. If the top goes, Russia would have to reconstruct, however that might turn out.

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Except Putin’s behavior isn’t sane even by oligarch standards. Another corrupt leader would just take Putin’s place, but they might not be inclined to continue with Ukraine. They could just blame it all on Putin and quietly retreat the military. It’s not the best outcome, but at least Ukraine would be safe.

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It’s not just Putin, and it’s not all of Russia. The Kremlin+oligarchs are the problem.

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But not the same shitty, abd since they’re not Putin, they can disown this whole shit show and shut it down without looking weak.

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So let the other heads see what happens when you fuck around too much.

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Like many things political, you start doing outside political killings from another country, pretty soon you can find yourself dead as a political leader. It’s playground tit-for-tat rules.

Plus, unless you are prepared for a “You break it, you buy it” situation, can and always will get something worse. See: the Middle East at this moment in time.

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That’s why none of them will do it.

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There is no way to convince me that the CIA, MI6, and/or Beijing couldn’t take him out if they wanted him gone, which makes me wonder why they wouldn’t, I guess World War III but it’s not like that’s not already a possibility

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There isn’t a replacement in place for Putin that would be any different. Everyone that thinks and acts different is kept away from power in Russia. Pushed out of windows, deaths in prison or the aircraft falls out of the sky. There is a possibility that he is replaced by someone worse.

It’s much better if he is removed from power by Russians. The next leader has to be different and havs the support of the people. Intelligence services taking him out won’t achieve this. Your likely to get an extremists that tries to escalate the war in Ukraine.

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The CIA attempted to assassinate castro between 8 and 634 times

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Because then Russia will try to assasinate US leaders

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Yea they even got OBL murdered when they wanted. It seems that they just don’t want Putin gone for now, profits or “escalation” as a reason.

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Nah. These are all state actors. They don’t want to break the taboo on assassinating world leaders when they do atrocities, because they may want to do atrocities later.

So millions of poor fuckers die in the mud.

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There are smart people in Russia who need better things to do. This bullshit is out of control.

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There needs to not be a ‘Russia’ after this. Split it up. Try to keep the regions peaceful and shit, but absolutely divide them politically, so one cannot say ‘Russia’ is a meaningful entity.

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Yeah, we know how it went with Africa. Sure. You’d like to do that from the comfort of your home, right?

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Africa was carved up with the intent to be exploitable, with minority regimes that needed colonial support in power and intentional ethnic and resource conflicts aplenty.

Don’t be a dick about it, carve it up based on extant cultural regions with balancedish resources, and it could work. At least closer to ‘works’ than having a ‘Russia’ is right now.

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Oh that sounds easy and like it surely would backfire spectacularly /s that’s how you get a nuclear war or similar.

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You can’t convince me Russia’s nuclear arsenal works for shit, much less the missiles.

And even if one or two get through; still a net gain on human life over another year or ten of meat grinder warfare.

And if you put a bounty on Russian warheads…

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Russia will be paying back for these years, for decades to come.

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Or just carve up Russia so no part us big enough to pull this shit again, and people there are less under the thumb of a handful of shit heads in Moscow/st Petersburg.

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Bring back Novgorod.

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“…and Russia is thought to be responsible.”

Nooooooo… Russia? Really? They would neeeveeeer?

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Isn’t that kinda pathetic? Jamming GPS is not hard, nor impressive. It’s just annoying.

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Seems like a message is being sent.

I love to be a fly on the wall behind the scenes, as far as what’s going on between the two sides, that they actually decided to do something as annoying as this.

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That’s all they’ve got left after throwing all of their troops into the meat grinder.

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Not all. Just too fucking many.

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The thing about Russia is, they’ve always got more sausage they can make

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Unfortunately, their recruitment rate is at a record high 😕

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Its on par with bringing the dog out when merkel was visiting. Thats all they have.

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As if being impressive is the goal of these attacks.

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I dont think they are doing it to impess.

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looks to be pretty effective to me

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And that effect was…???

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Threatening the lives of EU citizens and commerce in an effort to force the European nations to withdraw support from Ukraine.

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Maybe they were just testing reaction time

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How much more will we allow these assholes to get away with? When does it stop?

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When the West decides it’s willing to risk flash dessication.

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As shitty as Putin is, I don’t think he has a death wish.

I think we’ve made it clear we know where he is at all times. First reply we send is on his head.

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As shitty as Putin is, I don’t think he has a death wish.

How certain are you?

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What if putin was going to die soon from something?

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dessication

desiccation

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I’m not sure what flash dessication is, but I’m willing to bet Putin would bring the world down with him if cornered.

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Nuclear blast, where I focused on the heat and excluded the long, painful radiation deaths that would also occur.

Edit: radio - > radiation

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It is highly likely that exactly zero Russias nukes work. Nuclear maintenance is extremely expensive, and there is a zero percent chance that corruption that we witnessed in tank maintenance and other areas of their military did not spread to their nuclear program. It has also been 34 years since they successful a launched a nuke.

Russia as a country has never launched a nuke (USSR did) so it’s seriously debatable if they even have the capability.

And I’m not advocating for war, but Russia needs to have consequences for their actions, and the world needs to respond resolutely and immediately before this gets any worse.

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It stops only when they are forced to stop and not a moment sooner. Who has the will or the ability? In the U.S., conservatives are on Putin’s side, so as long as conservatives have any power (like they do now), they will back him.

The EU is sounding the alarms, but only France is stepping up to the plate ready to fight. As usual, the EU will just hope France will protect the rest of them.

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Yeah I’m not gonna go to war over gps spamming attacks lol

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…because that’s the only thing that russia has ever done to Eruopean countries…

/s

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You volunteering to be cannon fodder?

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I’m talking from my perspective

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Guess it’s time to dust off those VOR navigation skills, then…

And, as ususal, fuck Putler and his cronies.

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the US GPS backup

I’m assuming there’s a European backup to GPS, is there?

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Europe is using same or similar systems. Also Europe has Galileo satnav system. But it has the same drawbacks as GPS.

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but VOR can be jammed just as easily? It’s effectively just ground based GPS.

There are actually devices, that can to a certain extent resist jamming by rejecting signal coming from some direction while amplifying signal from other. Typically they amplify signal from space and reject signal from ground where the jammers would be. So in a way GPS is more resilient against jamming if you can use this device. But AFAIK they are only used for military purposes.

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That device is called a CRPA (pronounced serpa). They are very effective at anti-jam.

As far as VOR jamming, those use a VHF omni-directional antenna, so it can be jammed. It might be hard because of the omni-directional part and the numbers of them, but definitely doable.

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Might have to break out the ole INS

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According to wikipedia all modern aircraft should be equipped with an Inertial Navigation System. A system that gives the position of the aircraft by using a buch of accelerometers and gyroscopes.

The GPS is just there to adjust the position given by the INS.

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IRSs drifts like crazy. If anything irs is the backup to GNSS currently.

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Hopefully a few VOR and DME approaches left in the chart book.

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