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The latest cope is “hypersonic weapons aren’t what they’re hyped up to be”.

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55 points

lol Patriot systems seem to disagree

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It seems that a year ago they managed to shoot down one kinzhal missile. From my understanding, they shot it down in its “final approach”/maneuver to target stage, which happens at subsonic speed.

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/6/7400941/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/ukraine-ap-kyiv-netherlands-moscow-b2333737.html

The actual hypersonic missiles can maneuver at hypersonic speeds, and Russia hasn’t used those in Ukraine yet.

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They never shot down a Kinzhal, those sources you linked are basically Ukro propaganda cope. Russia has and continues to use hypersonics in Ukraine which neither Ukraine’s remaining legacy Soviet S300 nor their Western provided Patriot systems (multiple of which have already been taken out by these missiles) can shoot down.

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It’s good to be skeptical of any claims that are extreme, and “Kinzhals have never been shot down” seems like a strong claim, like you would expect by simple random chance that one might eventually get shot down. However, I distinctly remember the ‘Kinzhal shootdown’ story, so I present you these images.

This is what a Kinzhal looks like strapped to a Russian plane

This is the 'shot down Kinzhal' presented to the media by a high ranking Ukrainian official (I forget his name)

Bonus: Another 'Kinzhal' Ukraine claimed to have shot down two months later

(It’s the same one)

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how incompetent do you have to be to have unlimited resources and easy access to brightests minds in the planet and still got beat by a tiny, blocked and previously wrecked country

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55 points

Incredible racism against people of Chinese descent, a STEM research culture that only rewards profitability, and an education system that only helps rich failchildren.

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Because the yanks and the koreans are doing two different things. The koreans are developing new missiles to defend their nation. The yanks are developing ways to get more yachts for defence contractor CEO’s, preferably also a way to kill brown people with rusty AK’s.

Both are good at what they’re doing.

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Americans: “We’re going to engineer hypersonic air travel in the 1970s.”

Also Americans: “We lost the arms race to the Hermit Kingdom in 2024.”

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44 points

dprk stay winning 🇰🇵

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Not only does the DPRK have hypersonic weapons, they have is some metrics the best hypersonic missile on earth: https://nr.reddit.com/r/EuropeanSocialists/comments/1bhpcbh/main_feature_of_the_new_cold_war/

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