Hey y’all, since this is a sensitive topic and there’s been a lot of discussion which involved big emotions, I wanted to just drop by and assure the community that we’re aware this thread exists and that some of the discussion here can be uncomfortable. At least at this point in time, I don’t personally feel the need to step into any of these conversations to intervene, because I believe that the community has managed to have a meaningful discussion over a really difficult topic.

With that being said, there are some big emotions in this thread and some of the content may trigger you, especially if you’ve suffered abuse from people struggling with mental disorders or you have a mental disorder that is heavily stigmatized. There are strong statements on both sides of the field here, and I personally think leaving them up is healthier for a nuanced understanding of how much abuse can destroy someone’s life as well as how much assumptions about behavior can be deeply hurtful to experience as well.

However, if you do see behavior in here that is clearly not nice behavior and you believe that one party is instigating please still go ahead and report it. We’re not all seeing and all knowing and we don’t want this post to go off the rails either. Thanks! 💜

I support black rights, but any time somebody says black lives matter, I interrupt them and say that I don’t think we should let black people do violent crimes, and say shame on them for enabling black criminals. But I do support black rights.

This is literally the way conservatives talk about people with NPD. It’s all “I support equality”, but they think equality means a bunch of ableist stereotypes about us being allowed to happen, and they oppose that. Somehow they think they can support the idea of equality for people with disabilities, while complaining any time equality is mentioned.

I mean, there’s support and then there’s enabling. Not all things that ND people do are good, either for them or those around them. We as a community don’t act like it’s ok for Autistic people to go around grabbing women’s tits “cause they don’t understand social conventions” (though I’ve absolutely come across this argument before, which infuriated me), why would we act like it’s ok for NPD people to manipulate and emotionally abuse those around them “cause it’s just the way they are”? The goal is to support them in a way that limits harm: both the harm that comes to them from outside, and the harm they can do to others.

It’s not “something we don’t like”.

If that’s your take I’m not sure what reaction you’re looking for.

Obviously people should get the support/help they need.

I hope the responses here resonate with you and help you clear up misunderstandings you have.