230 points

Reminder that if the media is cool with putting the victim’s name all over, then you should be cool with the officer’s name all over.

Innocent until proven guilty am I right?

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Potatoes are food, not friends…📝

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13 points

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7 points

I like Tacos!

-Gir

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6 points

The username

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160 points

There are a lot of things I hate about the Bible as an atheist, but one thing I really wish would be implemented is a double measured punishment for positions of authority. Every crime a police officer is found guilty of should be doubled, every time and without exception. They should always be aware of the fact that if they screw up it will be a much bigger deal for them.

What do you expect in DeSatan’s state.

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47 points

There’s a lot of fucking sense in the bible sometimes, in a lot of cases the problem is it’s good fucking sense for a tribe of nomadic folk 2500 years ago and then it’s been filtered through various cults rewriting and reinterpreting it to suit their needs and viewpoints in the intervening time. The US constitution seems to be on the same sort of track.

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Is that double punishment thing in the bible? I couldn’t agree more. It’s the most heinous type of crime imo.

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16 points

Fuck the bible but this is already a thing in the military and it should be a thing in the police too since they are just the occupying military

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Which is why the state never will.

You can though; like the panthers, but learn the lesson from their failure: don’t get seen.

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9 points

Too bad we’re headed in the exact opposite direction…

Conservatives like my father are being brainwashed to believe the cops have TOO MANY restrictions to “properly do their jobs.”

They literally want LESS accountability for police… It’s absolutely absurd and because of that I’m pretty sure that’s what we’ll end up with. We don’t get to have nice things in this timeline.

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9 points

Officers need a UCMJ similar to the military.

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13 points

If rhey insist on military terms and tactics, a military court martial is only fair. Especially the parts about force and civilians.

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10 points

Not only that, but crimes specific to police officers just like soldier specific crimes. Hold them to a higher standard, and when that power is abused only the most brutal of punishments.

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5 points

Or an anti cop insurgency.

I live in Los Angeles, where the cops keep getting caught bringing in the big moral panic drug of the day and slaughtering people and being literal Nazi street gangs.

And I’m just putting the name “people persecuted by police” out there; somebody please use it, and please live up to it.

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11 points

And rules of engagement while we’re at it.

How is it that a soldier sent into literal combat against people he knows are armed and intend to kill them has to be more careful not to shoot someone than a police officer responding to a call about a black person using the sidewalk?

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8 points

I was deployed, and our rules of engagement was more strict than police officers. We had to keep it on us at all times (exception being for PT and shower time). There were very specific situations about when and where we could use our weapons.

What is ridiculous is “I was a scared little bitch” was not a reason to use force. Police can get away with killing civilians, unarmed civilians, because “I was scared”. If we did that, our ass would be in Leavenworth. Cops are fucking pathetic.

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2 points

A soldier who everyone knows was ordered ‘shoot to kill’, and people think its weird when they’re not.

They even get multiple months of training!

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Nah. They need the wall. They fought basic accountability too hard, clearly its not gonna happen. Accept that and move on to a more realistic solution.

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Idk I mean it would be fine if the consequences that everyone else has to face they have to too.

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130 points

I hope Mr. Riley is found not guilty. And that all three officers who participated in this dangerous fraud are charged and punished appropriately. Mr. Riley deserves compensation for harm done. Tallahassee, you can do better. smh.

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Don’t worry. Internal affairs with complete an investigation and find that the officers not only did nothing wrong but are being commended and recommended for promotion!

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45 points

After their paid vacation

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13 points

Possibly a paid transfer funded by taxpayers.

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12 points

How about we compromise. No punishment for the officers, and Mr Riley gets 12 months in jail, but he gets out 3 months early if he admits he was wrong and promised not to sue.

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7 points

Unfortunately that compensation will come from florida taxpayers instead of the criminal cops themselves.

Nothing will change until the cops have to pay their own damages.

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How can you hope that? Are you high?

Theres one way a cop will ever be held accountable.

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2 points

I hope for justice, and equality under the law. Are we there? No. And my activism focuses on what we need, deserve, and want. Why do you not? Do you advocate apathy? Do you have another suggestion?

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Laws aren’t for justice. I think if they’re ever in the same room, justice never showed up and the wall has some new stains.

Even if you don’t believe this, a system so thoroughly, from its original seed to every major input its had,made from injustice and tyranny for injustice and tyranny, is not going to provide you with justice.

You need to start fresh from the ground up. Maybe its possible to create a mostly-just system of laws; i don’t think it is, but I’m down to be proven wrong. I do know its impossible to salvage the ones we have, and if you wanted to make a serious attempt, you’d start from scratch.

I think we use laws because they’re a tool for exercising power, and we, growing up in strict hierarchalist societies, confuse power with justice. They’re opposites. Laws are a tool for systematizing and flattening morality so its legible to a top down hierarchy that doesn’t have time/bandwidth to fully pay attention, and a tool to divide a populace so you can justify picking out people you find inconvenient, or increasing power exercised against the people.

I think you find justice where laws don’t excuse people from thought compassion and consideration, put anyone above anyone else, or justify doing awful shit, and I think a lot of the work towards justice and equality is going to be emotionally messy and unpleasant til we get there.

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108 points

When you know there will be no consequences, it’s easier to be blatant with your corruption. The officer should be fired, arrested for falsifying official documents, and the chief of police should be fired.

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And they should also have to buy Riley a new bottle of cognac. The good stuff, too

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5 points

How you pour out the cognac and then call it shit vodka?

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9 points

It’s like that graphic of how cops see things and everything is a gun, but it’s how cops see liquor and everything is vodka

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19 points

Does no one else find it odd that some Boy Scout badges take more experience than a police badge does?

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12 points

We like our cops to be dumb. Less of a chance for them to realize how shitty they are.

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3 points

The stupid also won’t know that they’re participating in the wrong side of the class war.

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Most of them I think.

Or they did, before the boy scouts org was held accountable for all the kids they raped. So another way they’re better than cops.

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As a Life Scout that went to the national Jamboree more than once, I was shocked by those stories. I guess I lucked out and had scout masters that I thought were boring, but they were actually some of the good ones.

I thought they were boring because they followed all the rules all the time. I was a stupid kid.

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7 points

Theres one way to fire a cop, and you gotta do it yourself.

If it helps; they’re really bad at solving these things.

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They’re good at solving them, just find a non white person a make it work.

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They’re actually really bad at it. Over 70% of murder cases in California, and over 50% of the murder cases in the US go unsolved, and that’s including the ones they pinned on some random black/brown guy.

https://www.npr.org/2023/04/29/1172775448/people-murder-unsolved-killings-record-high

https://www.ppic.org/blog/a-large-proportion-of-crime-goes-unsolved-in-california/

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2 points

*racism FTFY

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73 points

Huh, so when is Kiersten Oliver’s trial?

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66 points

6 months paid vacation and a transfer to a different district where she commence committing more crimes. Same strategy as the church has with pedophiles. Wonder why this is so rampant when the punishment is a reward.

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Man, I hate this. I haven’t checked the articles, but you just know guilty cop isn’t named anywhere while the innocent driver has his name plastered everywhere.

It’s great that people here are at least naming these terrible people.

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That’s up to us.

I vote she doesn’t get one, but I’m not near Florida, so my vote probably doesn’t count. Not that kind of democracy.

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it’s not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they’re investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers’ names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with ‘law enforcement experience’ and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It’s called “Wandering Cops.”

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: “testilying.” Yet it’s almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don’t, they aren’t cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of “qualified immunity” renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past ‘qualified immunity’ is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That’s the solution.

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