230 points

Reminder that if the media is cool with putting the victim’s name all over, then you should be cool with the officer’s name all over.

Innocent until proven guilty am I right?

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Potatoes are food, not friends…📝

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13 points

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7 points

I like Tacos!

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6 points

The username

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66 points

Do to the video evidence, I give the jury a 50/50 chance of convicting, far higher than normal!

ACAB

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130 points

I hope Mr. Riley is found not guilty. And that all three officers who participated in this dangerous fraud are charged and punished appropriately. Mr. Riley deserves compensation for harm done. Tallahassee, you can do better. smh.

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Don’t worry. Internal affairs with complete an investigation and find that the officers not only did nothing wrong but are being commended and recommended for promotion!

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45 points

After their paid vacation

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13 points

Possibly a paid transfer funded by taxpayers.

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12 points

How about we compromise. No punishment for the officers, and Mr Riley gets 12 months in jail, but he gets out 3 months early if he admits he was wrong and promised not to sue.

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How can you hope that? Are you high?

Theres one way a cop will ever be held accountable.

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2 points

I hope for justice, and equality under the law. Are we there? No. And my activism focuses on what we need, deserve, and want. Why do you not? Do you advocate apathy? Do you have another suggestion?

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Laws aren’t for justice. I think if they’re ever in the same room, justice never showed up and the wall has some new stains.

Even if you don’t believe this, a system so thoroughly, from its original seed to every major input its had,made from injustice and tyranny for injustice and tyranny, is not going to provide you with justice.

You need to start fresh from the ground up. Maybe its possible to create a mostly-just system of laws; i don’t think it is, but I’m down to be proven wrong. I do know its impossible to salvage the ones we have, and if you wanted to make a serious attempt, you’d start from scratch.

I think we use laws because they’re a tool for exercising power, and we, growing up in strict hierarchalist societies, confuse power with justice. They’re opposites. Laws are a tool for systematizing and flattening morality so its legible to a top down hierarchy that doesn’t have time/bandwidth to fully pay attention, and a tool to divide a populace so you can justify picking out people you find inconvenient, or increasing power exercised against the people.

I think you find justice where laws don’t excuse people from thought compassion and consideration, put anyone above anyone else, or justify doing awful shit, and I think a lot of the work towards justice and equality is going to be emotionally messy and unpleasant til we get there.

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7 points

Unfortunately that compensation will come from florida taxpayers instead of the criminal cops themselves.

Nothing will change until the cops have to pay their own damages.

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25 points

What pieces of shit, also, she’s dumb as fuck for clearly doing something illegal knowing she was wearing a bodycam.

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41 points

Bodycams should not have a way to turn them off on the field, there’s no legitimate reason to, some states even allow it but require a 10 second timer

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13 points

Honestly, why they don’t constantly run but have button as a marker for “I have to take a bathroom break” and not review that footage unless something happened that requires review during that time period is beyond me.

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Because those very same cops also have access to evidence. And within days every single female officer’s bathroom pics will be in the text messages of every male officer.

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Or if you wanted to pretend the court system was real; presumption of pig guilt for anything off camera.

But that will never happen. Accountability will come from you, or it will come from nobody.

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2 points

If the camera is off they are no longer a cop until it is back on. That needs to be the rule. Then if they cannot provide footage a lot of civil lawsuits will be able to get past QI bullshit at least.

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There are a lot of things I hate about the Bible as an atheist, but one thing I really wish would be implemented is a double measured punishment for positions of authority. Every crime a police officer is found guilty of should be doubled, every time and without exception. They should always be aware of the fact that if they screw up it will be a much bigger deal for them.

What do you expect in DeSatan’s state.

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Is that double punishment thing in the bible? I couldn’t agree more. It’s the most heinous type of crime imo.

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There’s a lot of fucking sense in the bible sometimes, in a lot of cases the problem is it’s good fucking sense for a tribe of nomadic folk 2500 years ago and then it’s been filtered through various cults rewriting and reinterpreting it to suit their needs and viewpoints in the intervening time. The US constitution seems to be on the same sort of track.

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9 points

Officers need a UCMJ similar to the military.

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If rhey insist on military terms and tactics, a military court martial is only fair. Especially the parts about force and civilians.

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10 points

Not only that, but crimes specific to police officers just like soldier specific crimes. Hold them to a higher standard, and when that power is abused only the most brutal of punishments.

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Or an anti cop insurgency.

I live in Los Angeles, where the cops keep getting caught bringing in the big moral panic drug of the day and slaughtering people and being literal Nazi street gangs.

And I’m just putting the name “people persecuted by police” out there; somebody please use it, and please live up to it.

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And rules of engagement while we’re at it.

How is it that a soldier sent into literal combat against people he knows are armed and intend to kill them has to be more careful not to shoot someone than a police officer responding to a call about a black person using the sidewalk?

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2 points

A soldier who everyone knows was ordered ‘shoot to kill’, and people think its weird when they’re not.

They even get multiple months of training!

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8 points

I was deployed, and our rules of engagement was more strict than police officers. We had to keep it on us at all times (exception being for PT and shower time). There were very specific situations about when and where we could use our weapons.

What is ridiculous is “I was a scared little bitch” was not a reason to use force. Police can get away with killing civilians, unarmed civilians, because “I was scared”. If we did that, our ass would be in Leavenworth. Cops are fucking pathetic.

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Nah. They need the wall. They fought basic accountability too hard, clearly its not gonna happen. Accept that and move on to a more realistic solution.

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Fuck the bible but this is already a thing in the military and it should be a thing in the police too since they are just the occupying military

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2 points

Which is why the state never will.

You can though; like the panthers, but learn the lesson from their failure: don’t get seen.

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Idk I mean it would be fine if the consequences that everyone else has to face they have to too.

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9 points

Too bad we’re headed in the exact opposite direction…

Conservatives like my father are being brainwashed to believe the cops have TOO MANY restrictions to “properly do their jobs.”

They literally want LESS accountability for police… It’s absolutely absurd and because of that I’m pretty sure that’s what we’ll end up with. We don’t get to have nice things in this timeline.

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    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it’s not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they’re investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers’ names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with ‘law enforcement experience’ and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It’s called “Wandering Cops.”

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: “testilying.” Yet it’s almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don’t, they aren’t cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of “qualified immunity” renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past ‘qualified immunity’ is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That’s the solution.

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