74 points

Am i getting old if i feel the same way, i get really excited to have some time off to finally game only to then realize its really exhausting and i’d rather just watch some series or stream

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40 points

At some point you recognize the game is just giving you another to-do list.

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15 points

Yeah instead of playing an RTS game I started my own business. Grinding out some turns harvesting puts real gold in your pockets. But the angry villagers can be a problem sometimes.

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1 point

Those damn children. Get them their grains!

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27 points

Nah, I think that starts happening when you first get a job. Jobs take longer than school and generally are more labor intensive, and there’s also the commute, and when you get home you have to do chores and either make healthy food or eat something garbage for your body, and that’s just as a single person or a couple. It’s no wonder everyone’s tired, the 9-5 grind can be really exhausting, and when you’re tired anything that takes effort feels like a grind.

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13 points

Just to be clear, I don’t mean to sound hopeless. There are things you can do that make life feel meaningful and to allow you to enjoy your time, I just mean that life can be tiring.

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3 points

If you’re completely exhausted after your day it’s possible something deeper is going on

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12 points

Not really that deep, just tired at the end of the day it’s normal stuff really. I can’t game when I get home I need to give my self breather before any of that plus gaming tried is never a fun experience

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4 points

In the last couple of years I feel like that. Games that require a lot of time to get into, or to complete, feel like not accessible anymore.

I play either those games I used to for I already know them, or something with a very short route to dopamine. I’ve found playing Burnout series not causing me this burnout, kek. Just racing, no long-time investments, just crushing cars and see them fly. A good way to rest after a day of complicated tasks and decisions.

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4 points

Idk about you but I’m a dev, and when you have a job tbag keeps your brain ON a lot of the time, I feel like it’s more common to want to turn it off in your down time

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5 points

Same, there’s no gas in the tank at the end of the day. I problem solve for a living, it’s hard to get into that after work

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3 points

Nah, life’s exhausting and the older you get the more exhausting it becomes. Work requirements and responsibilities typically increase as you age, children are a black hole of time (as fun as they are), your body just starts to say “fuck this” and give up in creative ways and you just generally have less energy than you did the day before.

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2 points

I feel like the older people get, the more they tend to prefer to watch others do things rather than do them themselves.

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1 point

I relate hard. Multiple times before, I’ve spent hours and hours scouring the internet for a download link to a game, or even a tool or library needed to make it work. I’ll open the folder at 99%, ready to install 0.05 seconds after it’s downloaded. I’ll launch the game just to make sure it runs okay on my system, then give it a little whirl, and even then, it’s rare I’ll ever see beyond the tutorial, if that.

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37 points

I feel like my steam library is just an ode to all the game streams I’ve watched.

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20 points

This is me trying to finish Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom.

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6 points

I have fallen asleep multiple times playing that game. The stable music is perfect if you’re trying to drift off to sleep. Something about that flute…

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4 points

Yea there seems to be so much to do that I spend all my time wondering what to do next, only to find that its not that fun and then spending more time traveling to somewhere else

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3 points

I’m having a lot less fun with totk than I did with botw 😞. It’s like combination of too many quests, too many caves and being forced to build stuff all the time. I just want to climb mountains, glide, find cool weapons and do shrines. I also hate not having the shrine radar like in botw. I feel like I’m roaming blindly and getting 1 shot by enemies all the time

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3 points

You can get the shrine radar in TotK

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I believe I would have had a better time with Botw if there was a god mode. I just want to explore the world and climb stuff, not having to fight super strong enemies.

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1 point

Continue with Robbie’s questline. You get the shrine sensor and more. I loved the purah pad upgrades in totk.

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I actually do have a set list of stuff that I want to do before beating the game, and getting all the Shrines is on that list. That’s partially why it’s taking so long.

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20 points

My manager talked me into buying Diablo IV since I was into DnD.

I don’t know why people play games that require grinding when there are so many better options.

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9 points

Diablo is cancer tbh. Mindless grinding, zero skill. The only challenge is creating a nice build but that requires grinding and anyone can copy it from a YouTuber and learn to use it in a few minutes.

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2 points

Many genres can be called trash for different reasons, lol. I hate rhytm\reaction games, from dancing and playing instruments to fromsoft titles. It’s just I’m not build to enjoy them. But I love Diablo and would try to explain why.

Besides art direction of old Bliz and Matt Uleman’s OST, I like these series for… them being a task in optimization. Some games like building and management simulators are straightforward about it, but there it only shows in the endgame of diabloids. You are to think of theoretical ways of bettering your build, but also inventing the best way to farm X things in the least time possible to make it. I haven’t topped the ladder too many times for looking up others’ builds and copying them steals half of enjoyment from experimenting with it. It touches the same buttons in me as rewriting code for better performance does, and the only downside is me, a meatbag, executing it line by line, that you called mindless for a reason. I just reiterate through my idea before I see the predicted outcome.

That sort of enjoyment also surfaces in other games, like old shooters and RPGs, where I find ways to abuse the system and benefit from it. It’s a casual version of what speedrunners are into. Finding the best\fastest way to do X, but only for you to test and observe.

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God of War, Dark Souls, Elden, The Witcher… All of these games have a system to optimiza your character without the need to grind for hours non-stop. Armored Core will also have a complex build system for the mechas.

The problem with Diablo for me is that it is just that, just building a character that hits hard. If you have a good build, everything is waaay too easy unless you are going into dungeons 20 levels above yours. And even then, it doesn’t feel rewarding because killing the enemies isn’t hard, it just takes too long. Like, it was taking me 10 seconds to kill a basic minion, and even that felt better than going into a dungeon and obliterating everything.

Maybe I could enjoy building a character if I didn’t need to spend hours and hours grinding to level up and to get the right items with the right affixes. The grinding is just a torture, I feel I’m wasting my time.

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7 points

Why? KINGMAKER AND BALDURS GATE ARE RIGHT THERE DUDE

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I remember when grinding diablo was something you did because you liked killing endless hordes of monsters. It wasn’t because the game told you to do it.

Also crazy being a fan of 1 and 2 when they were new and having fans of 3 and 4 telling you this and that were always part of the series, clearly showing they have only ever played Diablo 3 and 4 because they’re always things that were first introduced in 3 and were the things that fans prior to 3 criticized when it came out.

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1 point

Like playing game, grinding isn’t that bad if you don’t like the base of the game grinding is going to look like a pain.

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1 point

I enjoy Diablo. What are some better alternatives? Diablo 4 is my first rpg

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2 points

Grim dawn is worth checking out.

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1 point

I highly recommend Last Epoch!

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@Pavr @nandeEbisu, a nice alternative of Diablo is Eternium, free to play (not pay to win, only options to buy cosmetic parts in the game menu, not needed for advantages in the game), for PC (mouse and keyboard) and optimized also for mobile and tablets with Touchscreen (gestics). Advances are synced between PC and Mobile. Singleplayer.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/981600/Eternium/
And also in the Appstore in Android
https://www.eterniumgame.com

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19 points

This hits hard

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