That was a huge wall of text - TLDR :
- Kagi has private investors
- Kagi has had some questionable uses of the private funding, such as opening a t-shirt company
- Kagi started as a AI focused company and pivoted to search
- Kagi is spread too thin over many different projects
- Kagi doesn’t take privacy, or user data seriously
Fair enough, but as long as google, bing, ddg, etc get more and more unusable there will be fans of alternative searches
Even if Kagi crashes and burns, it has demonstrated there is a market demand for useful search results that users pay for directly.
FWIW I don’t use Kagi because of the login / payment info requirements, so I agree broadly with the author. As bad as public searching is, its good enough to not give up privacy.
Thanks for the summary!
I’m not a Kagi user but I see people enthusiastically promote it often on Lemmy so I thought it was worth sharing this. After doing this post I noticed it is on HN as well, with 100 comments : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40011314
I’ve been really enjoying Qwant since I started using it after Mozilla announced their partnership.
I am super annoyed when the “turn of ad blocker” popup shows itself. They’d get many more users by not using that and serving ads from the same domain as searches. I get that they have to pay for their services somehow.
the CEO sealioning after the author asked them not to contact them anymore is a bit icky, too.
I had no faith to lose. Its a search engine sign into. How could that be private.
I enjoyed reading the article. To me, the perspective of the owner reminds me of the owners of Brave in that they are Libertarian in ways that seem aligned with mainstream views at a glance but the Venn diagram also overlaps with a disdain for regulation, while portraying a (potential) facade of being eternally infallible and trustworthy while also being a for-profit company.
Elon Musk also comes to mind in that his intelligence leaves him vulnerable to overlooking the nuances of conversations and alternative point of views. I think there’s a general over reliance on artificial intelligence as a savior that will be fully embraced that will lead to large issues in the short/long term for Kagi.
Personally, it always felt a little bit like astroturfing hearing all of the kagi fanboys in every privacy thread, but for what it’s worth, seeing them show up live In the flesh in this thread as well makes me feel a bit less like I’m talking to bots lol
Personally, I self-host my own version of searXng that only uses search engines that don’t track my IP address. I’d say that those results are good enough 90% of the time, and when I need something more granular, I use a publicly hosted version of searXng that uses Google in its results
Wow, those unsolicited emails are icky