Should just use Linux, tbh.

42 points

It’s amazing Microsoft has mismanaged their OS so badly that even gaming increasingly makes little sense on the platform. Why spend extra money on hardware just to have your performance stripped away by a bloated Windows?

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The choice of what you can do and play.

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honest to god if I wasn’t a valorant player or looking forward to 2XKO as a fighting game enjoyer I’d likely have made the switch to linux a long time ago, linux stocks are way up (metaphorically speaking) and windows is just like. Fine? I don’t mind windows 11 but I just feel increasingly like I have less reason to be on it.

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1 point

it could all begin with a dualboot…

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51 points

Interesting, considering I haven’t noticed… and gaming benchmarks have shown a minimal if any difference in gaming performance between Windows, stripped down Windows, and Linux. You’d have to split hairs to find it.

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54 points

You notice it on old hardware. On my Latitude e6220 (i3 2nd gen) there is a night and day performance difference between windows 10 and Linux.

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As someone with Ivy Bridge hardware that has run Windows 10 and Ubuntu… I haven’t.

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I use artix Linux with hyprland WM. System uses 384mb of ram on idle.

Edit: Even with extreme debloat you can’t get this performance on windows.

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My 3570k very much enjoyed the switch but it’s retired now. I can’t imagine how it would have handled win11 based on the before/after of other computers I use.

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Ubuntu is heavy for a Linux distro, because it uses the heaviest DE (GNOME), uses the less optimized Snap packages, and perhaps has other Canonical telemetry or something.

If you want better performance, try something with a lightweight DE. I have a laptop running Lubuntu (essentially Ubuntu with LXQt instead of GNOME), and it’s actually quite responsive, at least for basic system functions.

Because if you run anything on the web with a 10 year old CPU, it’s gonna suck due to the huge web browsers accompanying the bloated websites. Even on a well optimized website, the browser overhead is significant on bad hardware, especially regarding the launch time of the browser.

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oof an i3 though. modern winOS doesnt like i3’s

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Those were borderline even when new. I warned people that if you wanted hardware that lasted, i3s aren’t going to cut it.

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5 points

i3 is just a class the generation matters a lot a current gen i3 is very fast.

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That’s why it’s considered, you know, old?

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10 points

How is this relevant? If an OS performs better on old hardware, it’s still an indication that it is more optimized.

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Yeah, I’m currently upgrading our fleet of Windows 10 PCs at work to 11. I haven’t noticed a significant difference either. Nor at home on my desktop or laptop. I think this guy might be affected by a driver bug or something.

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The only time I’ve ever noticed a substantial difference is when enabling Windows’ Virtualization-based security on hardware without support for things like MBEC/GMET.

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1 point

It was pretty bad in the beginning. I suppose they have improved it.

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Idk man. I have a brand new laptop my work got me and I notice it. Windows is just plain bad now. It’s like I go to save a file and the file browser window opens and I’m stuck sitting there waiting for minutes. It’s like I’m suddenly 10 again when you’d turn on your pc, go make breakfast, come back and hope your PC finished booting. Does it both on my work laptop running 11 and my PC at home running 10.

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5 points

That is not even remotely normal.

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Normal enough I deal with it on 2 separate machines. One new and store bought, unmolested by IT lockdown bs, and the other I built and use really just for gaming. Idk man. I just feel like Windows has gotten worse and worse and I’m thinking of hopping back to Linux now that gaming is more accessible on it thanks to Proton, but I can’t completely get away from windows.

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9 points

Your work laptop may have company spyware on it. That will drag down the performance of the system, especially if it is monitoring absolutely everything.

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It doesn’t. I bought it with a company credit card and I don’t let IT touch it. I gotta do a lot of stuff in the field so I don’t have time to call IT every time I need to install a software update update.

The File Explorer behavior is something I’ve been noticing lately. I do have a number of cloud accounts connected for work, 2 One Drive, 1 dropbox, with a shit ton of files and folders (most not sync’d locally) and I wonder if File Explorer is looking through those when it opens.

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That happens for me only if my network drives are not properly connected. Windows will absolutely take you on that until it’s connected or times out.
Your only way out is to crash explorer.exe

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11 points

It’s the UI he’s complaining about.

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I disagree - Linux actually tanks GPU performance if you’re VRAM limited. It’s extremely unfortunate, as many games now have atrocious VRAM usage for no particular reason.

If you’re not limited though, you’re absolutely right, the difference is minimal and generally within margin of error. Some CPU bound games are better on Linux though, in a measurable way, specially if you’re running bleeding edge distros.

EDIT: guys I use and love Linux, but we don’t have to downvote me to pretend it’s perfect, how about a DXVK developer confirming what I said.

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A good number of games run better on Linux, I bet it will find it obvious on lower specced machines too. I just saw this video today and on Linux, it shows a 10 fps boost for most of the games demonstrated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b50Stm8gu4

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7 points

Yeah so pretty hard to generalize based on testing one setup. Ask most people with an Nvidia GPU how they like Linux gaming…

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2 points

I think as long as it isn’t the newest nvidia gpu, I’ve heard they’re generally alright if you use the proprietary and non-free drivers.

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1 point

You could have read what the article was about, though.

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You can’t even put a toolbar on the taskbar. Wtf

Not really a performance thing, but still.

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What sort of toolbar do you mean? Actually curious because I just use my taskbar for shortcuts and the number that minimize to the system tray. I’ve been wondering about other uses it could have. I will Google it too but always nice to have random people’s uses as well. Have a Linux vm setup through hyper v and been trying to learn more.

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You have been able to add a toolbar to the taskbar in many previous versions of Windows. I believe it used to be even more robust back in XP, and maybe earlier. In Windows 10 that I am using, you can right click the taskbar and there is a toolbars option at the top of the list. I created one that points to a folder of folders, that all contain numerous shortcuts, many of which I’ve been able to bring across multiple computers and versions of Windows rather easily. So far, in Windows 11, it looks to me like pins and simply loading up the taskbar with shortcuts is inefficient as well as very messy. Maybe I need more time with Windows 11. I hope they change some things back or add the capability.

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I didn’t see any difference on my 2in1 ThinkPad, performance was about the same, although Windows 11 UI felt snappier.

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11 points

It’s true. My new windows laptop crashes, lags, and constantly blasts the fan. My older Linux laptop does none of those things even under greater workloads.

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That sounds like some other sort of issue going on, not Win11.

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4 points

Possibly bloatware related, unless it’s a clean install of Windows.

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It was clean and I Uninstaller a ton of stuff, made the ui minimalist as possible. It’s usable and powerful, but it’s laggy and thr Microsoft apps like to crash.

One hardware difference is that Windows is on a Ryzen 7 plus discrete graphics vs the Linux (endeavourOS) one has a slightly older i7 (12th gen) and integrated graphics. They both have 32GB of RAM.

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