I think the correct response is: “Duuuh???”.
The guy is a fucking creep. Just LOOK at him. Guilty as sin.
Streisand effect turned up to 11 … Lehrmann’s wikipedia page now opens with:
Bruce Lehrmann is a former political staffer who raped a colleague at Parliament House, Canberra.
emphasis mine
Someone in the Brissy Discord mentioned they were surprised the page hadn’t been locked. So I did some digging.
Turns out, the page has basically only existed since today. Up until then, it would just redirect you to the “2019 rape allegation by Brittany Higgins” section of the page “2021 Australian Parliament House sexual misconduct allegations”. Today, the page was created for real, and has been edited by 9 users making a total of 20 edits. That opening has been altered to be a little more legally safe.
The sidebar still says “Known for: Rape at Parliament House” though.
And it seems they’ve clarified it even more now:
Bruce Emery Lehrmann is a former political staffer who was found in a civil court trial at the Federal Court of Australia, on the balance of probabilities, to have raped a colleague at Parliament House, Canberra.
Still a banger of an opening line on one’s wikipedia page!
Balance of probabilities? “More likely than not”? Is this usual for these types of legal cases?
I was under the impression decisions had to be made “beyond a reasonable doubt” and justice was based on an onus to prove guilt (e.g. innocent until proven guilty).
This seems an insanely dangerous way of determining guilt.
Why do people feel the need to downvote when someone asks a question? This sucks for discourse. Assume good faith and downvote the trolls.
Just turn off votes altogether, they don’t make any difference AFAIK. I didn’t even know that comment was downvoted until you brought it up.
It affects ranking and works decently to put the best comments near the top and the bad comments toward the bottom.
There was a criminal trial a while back, but it was declared a mistrial after some jury fuckery. They declined to re-prosecute because of the detrimental effect it would have on Higgins’ mental health. As others have said, this is a civil trial, specifically, Lehrmann trying to sue the people Higgins went to in the media to tell her story for defaming him.
Truth is a defence to defamation, so proving that the claims were true (in this case, as others have said, to the balance of probabilities, rather than beyond all reasonable doubt) is a way to win a defamation case as a defendant.
Am lawyer, “beyond reasonable doubt” is for criminal charges. “Balance of probabilities” is for civil cases ie where jail is not a penalty option.
Defamation is civil.
This was a defamation case, i.e. a civil case. Ten’s defence was that their imputation that Lehrmann raped Higgins was substantially true, so the judge had to rule on whether or not the rape happened. It is not a criminal conviction and there won’t be one in this case because the criminal trial was abandoned due to juror misconduct.
It’s a civil case. There is no “guilt” here. No one is going to jail or gaining a criminal record. There is no criminality.
Instead, there’s a judgment as to whether one has executed their civil responsibilities. And for such cases, the burden is “on the balance”. IE, what is more likely.
Here, AFAIU (I haven’t followed the case), someone in the media stated that Lehrmann raped someone, Lehrmann sued them for defamation, to which the basic/obvious defence, and the one employed by the media person, is that the statement in question is true. It was found, on the balance of probabilities, that the statement was true (or more likely true than not).
The line from the judge “Having escaped the lion’s den, Mr Lehrmann made the mistake of going back for his hat", AFAICT, is a reference to how Lehrmann escaped being criminally convicted (and luckily so IIRC) but then found it necessary to bring this defamation case.
Now we know he probably did it and most people if they saw all the evidence would probably conclude the same. Maybe not certainly enough to throw him in jail (though we don’t know that) but certainly enough to say “fuck off with this defamation shit”.
edit: spelling
someone in the media stated that Lehrmann raped someone
So, I also haven’t followed the case very closely, but AIUI, it actually wasn’t even that. Brittany Higgins merely went to the media and stated that she was raped by her former boss. Lehrmann merely claimed that it was obvious she was talking about him from her statements.
“Having escaped the lion’s den, Mr Lehrmann made the mistake of going back for his hat"
Is there any way this could have gone worse for him?
Is there any way this could have gone worse for him?
Coulda been a full Oscar Wilde and resulted in charges being brought back to him after they had otherwise already been dropped.
When Mr Lehrmann faced criminal trial for sexual assault in the ACT Supreme Court in 2022, he was provided with material that both parties could have used to mount their arguments.
This material was not meant to be made public, because it was never used in open court. This is known as the Hearne v Street obligation.
However, it aired on the Seven Network’s exclusive Spotlight interview with Mr Lehrmann.
Mr Lehrmann repeatedly gave evidence in his defamation case, on at least four occasions, that he did not provide Seven with anything more than an interview.
Justice Lee said he was “satisfied” Mr Lehrmann made false representations to the court about at least part of this material.
“In the absence of any other explanation, the inescapable conclusion is that Mr Lehrmann provided access to Mr Llewellyn to the relevant photographs,” he said.
While conceding he was “not some sort of roving law enforcement official”, Justice Lee left the door open for another court to pursue the alleged breach of the Hearne v Street obligation.
There seems to be a potential new path of legal inquiry here aside from any potential new case by the ACT. Punishments aren’t severe, but he could basically be found in contempt of court and fined or (unlikely) imprisoned.
@notleigh @vividspecter only if he’d been arrested as he’d walked out of the court :)
So what (if anything) is next?
@Ilandar @vividspecter if there was any justice, it would be a retrial of the original charge of raping Brittany Higgins :(
I don’t know anything about the law, the first paragraphs says:
Bruce Lehrmann has lost his defamation case against Network Ten and Lisa Wilkinson, bringing to an end a sprawling legal saga which has gripped the nation.
Really? No more legal stuff? Lehrmann can’t take this further?
Like @anathema_device@bne.social said, he could appeal. But the judge also ruled that if he had needed to award damages, they would have been very low. So if he did appeal, he’d have to not only prove that the judgment was wrong to go against him, but also that damages should have been much higher. That makes the idea of an appeal much less…appealing.
Mr Lehrmann would have been entitled to more than a nominal award but as the above analysis demonstrates, his award of ordinary compensatory damages would be very modest. Hence any augmentation of damages occasioned by the aggravating conduct, comes from a very low base. If it had been necessary to assess damages in favour of Mr Lehrmann, the appropriate and rational relationship between the actual harm sustained and the damages awarded would lead to total damages of $20,000.
@maniacalmanicmania @Ilandar Lehrmann is a low life who has powerful and rich backers like Channel Seven …they deserve each other!
@maniacalmanicmania @Ilandar he could appeal, but he won’t
