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But think of all the shareholder value that could be created!

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Name another tweet that has as many applications besides dril’s entire account and

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The orphan-crushing machine tweet

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Not only that, but there’s literally a Star Trek episode about this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Time_(Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine)

Of course, it’s about torturing O’Brien.

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That’s in my top 5 favorite episodes. The ending is brutal.

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Can they just sort out the housing price and cost of living so we’re not forced to break the law to survive and get their thousand year sentence? Or nah?

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I don’t think you understand how the system works.

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No of course, if people could understand the system, we wouldn’t need the system.

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I think it was Confucius that said that society is best when the laws are simple and people understand the laws.

I mean what do we need with 5,000-year-old Chinese mysticism when we’ve got Elon musk shoving metal pellets into your medulla oblongata that can play ads at you in your dreams?

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I’m pretty sure crimes like murder etc. are the ones that should be getting thousands year sentences. Has nothing to do with cost of living and housing price imo. I’m open to an explanation.

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People can’t afford rent and food, shouldn’t energies be put toward fixing that instead of whatever the hell problem this is aimed at?

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There’s a Black Mirror episode about that!

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There’s a Deep Space 9 episode about that!

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Which was never brought up again. Poor O’Brien

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I am in S05 of DS9 (first watch) and saw this one recently in S04. We really enjoyed it.

Do they ever bring up that O’Brien isn’t the original O’Brien they knew, but rather the future O’Brien that swapped places? … I didn’t think so.

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There’s an episode of Torchwood about that!

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21 points

That Black Mirror episode still affects me to this day shudder

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I had to give up on The Black Mirror after that episode where they have to exercise to earn credits and are forced to watch advertising. Then that girl thought she could make it out by singing but had to do porn instead. Couldn’t watch anymore after that.

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11 points

That episode got darker after the porn part.

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ah yes s1e2. you almost gave it a shot

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FWIW, I think that episode is one of the weakest early season episodes. It’s somehow both too explicit and not explicit enough, because their world doesn’t make any sense beyond simply “capitalism”. The rest are a lot more in the realm of existential horror and questioning the morality of things. Black mirror just isn’t a good medium for an explanation of why capitalism is evil.

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also star trek: deep space nine.

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And Outer Limits 1995 iirc

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Also a Carey Elwes documentary about assholes with six fingers

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2 I think, though I don’t remember the other one that’s not White Christmas.

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I know it’s a shitpost, but the idea behind something like this is counter to the point of rehabilitation. Civilization should move towards rehabilitation instead of punishment as the idea is that you want to integrate someone back into society. I am not sure inducing trauma and mental damage is conducive to rehabilitation.

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Technology like this could actually be used to help the rehabilitation process by dilating time, and allowing the offender to be rehabilitated without actually wasting much of their actual life.

It would most likely be used for harsh punishment in this universe, but its nice to imagine living in a better one, sometimes.

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I’m like 99% sure it would just make the time feel longer without any benefit of consciousness. Kind of like certain drugs make everything feel like it’s slow motion, but you still don’t get superhuman reflexes from them.

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I think you’re exactly right. I’m not in any way qualified to make this statement but, if I’m right, you can’t just make the brain “go faster” and get more useful time without time actually passing. Processes need to happen in the brain for thoughts to occur, and you’d have to somehow speed those up… I mean there are chemical reactions happening in your nerve endings, how are those going to speed up? Especially by a factor of >1000 as implied by the OOP!

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It sucks that it would never be used for speed rehab and instead for eternal torture.

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I don’t think so. It probably just screws with the perception of time, I doubt it actually speeds anything up. If it did, we’d be able to use it for way more things than punishment, like for example, doing a deep delve into a subject in a matter of hours.

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i’m not sure how this could really work. good therapy requires the person of the therapist, and it additionally takes place within the context of a client’s living. are there therapists willing to give up subjective years over and over and over? how does the client try new things, gain understanding without the feedback of their life between sessions? also - therapists seek information and process their work with clients between sessions.

on top of all this, i’m not yet convinced this would be psychologically healthy for either.

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if someone could actually get new information and insight under something like this, why would we use it in a prison instead of putting people to study the whole of human knowledge and create demi-god wizards?

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So I was on a jury pool in December.

After the attorneys for both sides finished their dog and pony show, the judge himself made each of us answer the following question:

What is the purpose of criminal incarceration?

A - Punishment

B - Deterrence

C - Rehabilitation

After all seventy five of us had answered, all of us who responded with anything other than punishment were dismissed. Even those who answered a combination of the choices. Nope. Punishment was the only correct answer.

To my amusement, this barely left enough people available to fill the jury box.

I followed the case. Guy robbed a convenience store. No death. No injury. Got fifty nine years.

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That’s just emblematic of a broken justice system. We have to examine what is “justice” for any one case individually, and sometimes punishment may make sense, but even then its severity is determined by humane and ethical considerations. Justice systems can be reformed, the will to do so must be there—even if that means protesting till an objective is achieved.

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I know it’s a shitpost, but the idea behind something like this is counter to the point of rehabilitation.

Its counter to our understanding of entropy. Brains simply don’t work like this.

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Can you elaborate?

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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071211233934.htm

Even though participants remembered their own falls as having taken one-third longer than those of the other study participants, they were not able to see more events in time. Instead, the longer duration was a trick of their memory, not an actual slow-motion experience.

Your memory is imperfect. But your actual capacity to perceive time is still limited by the facilities you use for that prescription.

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It’s not complete horseshit. The application might be, but the idea isn’t.

I remember a Slavoj Zizek anecdote about it.

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Can I use this to make my 48 hour weekend feel like a 480 hour weekend? I really don’t want to be back at work.

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Sounds like you found some more time that you could be working!

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Fuuu…

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You can now work 2,047 hours per week.
But don’t worry, you’ll be appropriately rewarded with a partially eaten slice of pizza (the CEO didn’t like it).

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No, sorry. Ethically, this technology can only be used for torture.

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Can I use this to make my 48 hour weekend feel like a 480 hour weekend?

No, because its a technological fantasy.

People can “lose time” such that they don’t realize how long they’ve been unconscious. But they can’t “gain time”. That’s not how brains work. You can’t get an extra six weeks to study for an exam an hour before the test. Nothing will let you do that. Its pure wizard-tier shit.

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There are stories of people experiencing whole lifetimes within dreams, especially within comas, as well as hallucinogenic trips that seem to last many years.

The human brain is a lot weirder than we know.

And it should be deeply troubling that if we ever learn to manipulate this kind of time perception that some people want to turn it towards torture, and they could get state backing to do so.

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If those situations can create strong memories about things that didn’t physically happen, then it seems like almost anything can appear to have happened from that individual’s perspective.

From the individual’s standpoint, once they are awake they can’t really tell the difference between having experienced X and having vivid false memories of experiencing X.

Maybe some kind of real time brain scanning/monitoring could help tell the difference.

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There are stories of people experiencing whole lifetimes within dreams

There are anecdotes about people claiming to remember living whole lifetimes within dreams.

Even taking this utterly impossible to prove claim at face value, there’s no way to replicate anything like that in practice.

And it should be deeply troubling

I’m about as concerned with this as the possibility someone might try to reverse my gravity or Frankenstein my head into someone else’s torso.

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There’s definitely ways to make a few minutes feel like hours. Unfortunately those ways aren’t really that pleasant…

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There’s definitely ways to make a few minutes feel like hours.

There’s ways to remember a few minutes as having felt like hours. But that’s very different from experiencing minutes as hours.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071211233934.htm

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Don’t say that, now some CEO is yelling at his staff to figure it out.

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