64 points

Again they are naming Fediverse services and not mentioning Lemmy! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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which is kind of shocking because I feel like lemmy is one of the fediverse “replacements” that most easily replaces.

I feel like most others don’t always “scratch that itch” that some of there closed source rivals do. But honestly the only thing at this point imo that lemmy has going against it is the smaller user base and therefore lack of as niche of communities

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Lemmy is still very much in its infancy. It’s not even reached version 1.0 yet. While we’ve all been on here for a while now, its future is still very much uncertain and hasn’t seen anywhere near the adoption that Mastodon and other microblog Fedi platforms have.

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8 points

Lemmy is still very much in its infancy.

Unlike the mentioned Intagram Threads?

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2 points

The level of expected support for those is a lot greater.

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Not a bad option, but what are the potential advantages over using the Pages feature of Misskey forks, or simply Wordpress?

Substack itself didn’t even present a correct UI to me on mobile so I never bothered with it when it was initially popularized. Still seems to have the issue, too.

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One advantage over wordpress is that it avoids bringing its parent company, Automatic, into the Fediverse.

From Wikipedia:

In February 2024, Automattic announced that it would begin selling user data from Tumblr and WordPress to Midjourney and OpenAI.

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11 points

I mean with fediverse stuff there is no need to buy the data, you can just take it with no limitation

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9 points

You’re not wrong in all likelihood, but Mastodon and Misskey and their forks all have a thingy to send an opt out of AI scraping request.

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4 points

I thought that was only about wordpress.com blogs not selfhosted wordpress, though?

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Thank you, that’s an important distinction. I hope they can be trusted to live up to that. However it still feels l pretty problematic to bring them in and would be a lot of opting in to debate and implement. It remains a pretty big violation of user privacy and trust and it says here:

As if that weren’t bad enough, preparations for the sale went poorly, and it seems large categories of Tumblr posts that weren’t supposed to be sold were added to the mix anyway. That data includes:

Private posts from public accounts

Posts on deleted or suspended accounts

Unanswered asks

Private answers

Explicit posts

Posts from partner accounts, like ad campaigns where Tumblr doesn't own the rights. (Apple is specifically named here.) 
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That’s a dealbreaker for me, I may consider badgering people in my Wordpress RSS folder to ditch it, on a case-by-case basis. Even liberals are sensitive to AI stuff because it upsets them to see Journalism Infringed

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Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I consider wordpress open core at best these days.

A lot of really basic features like lightboxes that should be in core are in their “jetpack” SaaS plugin. This by default sends automattic a whole bunch of telemetry, which I assume they are now selling to OpenAI, and puts ads in your dashboard for other commercial SaaS features.

There’s also the fact that they don’t allow forks of open source plugins in their plugin repository.

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That’s really good to know, thanks, I’d assumed they were a shitty blob company until I heard they were adding federation, but I guess that intuition was correct. Sounds almost Threads-tier.

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Not a bad option, but what are the potential advantages over using the Pages feature of Misskey forks

Didn’t know that Misskey forks have this Pages feature. Found this https://darnell.day/hey-tumblr-and-medium-fediverse-lovers-its-time-to-misskey which explains a bit about it. Is Misskey still actively developed ? Is there an overview of the forks ?

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5 points

FediDB is really the best way to look around for servers. Totally being actively developed, there’s way too many forks IMHO, but I’m sure the project maintainers would disagree for the time being.

Misskey.io seems to have range banned a lot of stuff so it’s not a good demo instance. You can’t translate the Japanese posts while logged out, either!

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4 points

It is actively developed. Some forks are Firefish, Foundkey, Sharkey, IceShrimp

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1 point

Thanks!

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21 points

Still seems pretty uncertain. I saw a chat between ghost CEO and some activity pub dev trying to convince him to federate … this was around the time of Newtons move off of substack … and the vibe was about the same then … “cool idea, unsure about viability, how would it work?”

Seems it’s such a common almost meme-ish user demand now that the request hasn’t let up. Given that Wordpress has done it I’d guess the idea is probably a no-brainer … just do it!

Problem though is the kinda-literal elephant in the room … mastodon. The only fediverse platform mentioned in the article. Federating with it requires implementing a “user” actor where everything is organised around users like on microblogging platforms. It’s what Wordpress did and what Ghost will too.

Which is a shame because us group based platforms get left behind, mastodon controls the fediverse, and the utility of grouping things, which makes a lot of sense for things like multi-author blogs, gets forgotten.

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I wonder if there is cludgy workaround to make groups just another user for the rest of the fediverse

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AFAIU, that’s how lemmy federates content to mastodon.

If you didn’t know, you can follow lemmy communities (and other groups) on mastodon, but the appear as users constantly “boosting” everything that happens in the community and so can quickly clog up your feed.

Mastodon now has exclusive lists though, which take everything that appears in the list out of your home feed, which is a nice way of managing it.

In fact, for a community I moderate, I’ve got a mastodon list just for that community, which gives me a reverse chronological feed of everything that happens in the community … which is actually useful and not quite available from the interface (as you posts and comments have to be viewed separately, which isn’t bad really).

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8 points

This is Ghost, the open source blog software. Color me surprised.

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